Dell has the new stuff

BBC454

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It looks like Dell has come out with a new desktop with all of the newer goods. They have the 3.6Ghz prescott, 925X chipset, ati X800XT and X300se pci-e, optional 74 gb raptor and a 400 Gb hd (not sure who's it is), and DDR2. They also have a new version of the XPS, but the only difference is 533Mhz DDR2 instead of 400Mhz. So it looks like these new technologies are coming!

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/dimen?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
 

DaveSimmons

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Yes, but if you read the reviews (HardOCP has a good one), i925, DDR2, and PCI-e are all worthless for current processors and graphics cards.

I have a P4 3.2C, but I'd have to recommend A64, DDR, AGP for anyone buying a system this year.
 

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Well, DDR2 is so high in latency there is no benefit from plane old DDR and you need a 1.4GHz FSB to utilize it.

Looks premature. Just like PCI-E.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Regs
Well, DDR2 is so high in latency there is no benefit from plane old DDR and you need a 1.4GHz FSB to utilize it.

Looks premature. Just like PCI-E.

That's good, that way we'll be ready for it when we do need it.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Regs
Well, DDR2 is so high in latency there is no benefit from plane old DDR and you need a 1.4GHz FSB to utilize it.

Looks premature. Just like PCI-E.

That's good, that way we'll be ready for it when we do need it.

That is correct. As soon as they iron out the latency of DDR2 and get the CPU's pumping , it will be one monster to reckon with.
 

tweeve2002

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Originally posted by: Regs
Well, DDR2 is so high in latency there is no benefit from plane old DDR and you need a 1.4GHz FSB to utilize it.

Looks premature. Just like PCI-E.

I dont think PCI-E is premeature, I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. With PCI-E I dont have to worry about overloading my PCI bus, with my RAID set ups
 

tart666

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interestingly, the stock 8400 is configured with ddr2-400... you need to pay extra for 533

did anyone see any benchmarks about the performance diff between ddr2-400 and 533?
 

mechBgon

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I see that the 8400 business system features a 350W power supply. That's a bump from the 250W that they have in the normal-size 4600. Interesting...
 

Markfw

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Yea, I looked at it, and configured it basically the way you said (with NO monitor) and it was $3500. I will stick to building by own. I spent less than that on my rig with SCSI, tape backup, 750 gig storage, etc...
 

Markfw

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Yes, and I can;t get those discounts, and its still too much for what you get without them.
 

JackHawksmoor

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I've been pricing an 8400 through the Small Business section, and it's actually not bad (after a 15% off coupon). Basically the same as building it myself, or cheaper when you take the x800XT into account.

I'm wondering about that though. Is the x800 they include a real one with the full 16pipes and 520Mhz clock? Or is it slower than the retail "x800 XT Platinum Edition"?

At any rate, not a terrible deal, especially now that the PSU is (finally) decent sized.

I'm not sure how proprietary it is though. I wonder if it's a normal ATX board and PSU, or some dumb Dell thing. I've been waiting SOOOOO long for this new stuff, that I'm tempted to just get one of these. (I could have bought back in March and aside from the GPU, had something just as fast...Grrr...)