Dell: Exploding batteries are Sony's fault

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Uhhh...Sony has always made mistakes and had stupid proprietary technologies. People still buy them. They aren't going away anytime soon...

..wasen't Beta better then VHS??

 

[fire400]

... that must be a catastrophe for Sony. I hope they don't lose too much face.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: gsellis
OK, here comes the next Apple vs PC video ad:

Haha, this puts a whole new light on the actual ad, where the PC guy got injured because he tripped over a power cord "which will never happen on the magnetic Apple cords".

Now they should run one where both of them are in the burn ward. "Battery?" "Yeah, battery." "So, about that whole 'I'm-better-than-you' crap..."

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: loup garou
ThinkPad explodes at LAX.

Yep just saw that. Guess even IBM lappys are not safe

Yet another item on the "do-not-fly" list?

Pretty soon we'll have to show up naked to the airport if we want to get on the plane.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
"It is the configuration. We use the same batteries in our Vaios, and have our own safeguards against potential overheating. Other manufacturers which use the same cells haven't come forward with any issues. On rare occasions, a short circuit can occur, but this is affected by systems configurations found in different laptops," the representative said.



Frankly I'm inclined to agree with Sony here. This doesn't mean I don't PRAY for the downfall of Blu-ray, because I would love that - but in this situation, I think Apple and Dell are at least as much to blame as Sony if not more so

I know that at least one Vaio has blown up. Dell and Apple far exceed sony's laptop sales and are therefore more likely to have more critical incidents.

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Exploding batteries are Sony's fault

Sony's manufacturing process is at fault, but Dell is partly responsible because their design doesn't incorporate an active power management chip into the battery to constantly monitor power circumstances. Thinkpads do, they use Sony batteries, yet none have been recalled and you don't hear about them exploding. The active power management would completely shut down the battery if certain parameters got out of safety values, same with AC input.

ThinkPad explodes at LAX.

Yup, this is totally sony's fault

 

[Schadenfroh]

Thank you Sony, thanks to you all airlines will probably ban all notebook computers from being carried onto planes. I am going to really enjoy listening to that damn baby next to me cry while I sit there instead of being able to blast the living crap out of something in Doom on my laptop.

 

[Coldkilla]

The one time I sat without my laptop there was a baby in the row across from me screaming her head off. Gotta love it!

 

[gsellis]

Excerpt from Airport 2006

Woman: "Oh MY GOD! He's got a DELL!"

Scruffy Man: "No bodde move oo I well turn nit on."

 

[natto fire]

For the record, an explosion and combustion are different things. Yeah, explosion sounds cool, but they really are just combusting.

 

[SuperNaruto]

Originally posted by: preslove
ThinkPad explodes at LAX.

Yup, this is totally sony's fault[/quote]


http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4298

more of the same.. right from the main page...

at least virgin lets you fly with notebook after a battery check
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4299

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Exploding batteries are Sony's fault

Sony's manufacturing process is at fault, but Dell is partly responsible because their design doesn't incorporate an active power management chip into the battery to constantly monitor power circumstances. Thinkpads do, they use Sony batteries, yet none have been recalled and you don't hear about them exploding. The active power management would completely shut down the battery if certain parameters got out of safety values, same with AC input.

ThinkPad explodes at LAX.

IBM & Lenovo recall 500,000 ThinkPad batteries.

 

[EKKC]

awesome. almost every nerd has a minibomb now. i have 2. both me and my gf's Dell laptops checked positive at dell's site, and i use a thinkpad at the client im consulting at.

 

[wetcat007]

I like how they try to blame the laptop manufactures, i guess lenevo, ibm, apple, and dell are all making them wrong therefore causing only sony batteries to ignite?

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Exploding batteries are Sony's fault

Sony's manufacturing process is at fault, but Dell is partly responsible because their design doesn't incorporate an active power management chip into the battery to constantly monitor power circumstances. Thinkpads do, they use Sony batteries, yet none have been recalled and you don't hear about them exploding. The active power management would completely shut down the battery if certain parameters got out of safety values, same with AC input.

ThinkPad explodes at LAX.

IBM & Lenovo recall 500,000 ThinkPad batteries.

Another Thinkpad explodes, although this was using third-party batteries. But you'd think the vaunted "active power management" would have done something about that

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: wetcat007
I like how they try to blame the laptop manufactures, i guess lenevo, ibm, apple, and dell are all making them wrong therefore causing only sony batteries to ignite?

sadly, there are no reports of sony vaio's explosions? maybe they dont use sony cells BWAHAHA

 

[Shawn]

Toshiba recalls 340,000 Satellite, Dynabook batteries

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/tosh...-340-000-satellite-dynabook-batteries/

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: wetcat007
I like how they try to blame the laptop manufactures, i guess lenevo, ibm, apple, and dell are all making them wrong therefore causing only sony batteries to ignite?

sadly, there are no reports of sony vaio's explosions? maybe they dont use sony cells BWAHAHA

Nope, there are reports of vaios exploding as well. IBM, Sony, Dell, Apple, Seems like the ones left are toshiba and HP.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
The fact of the matter is that it is a known defect that puts consumers in danger. Would you say the same thing if you were driving an early model Pinto? :roll:

The fact of the matter is that the batteries were out in customers hands BEFORE the defect was known. I'm simply stated:

1) that you CANNOT blame Dell for not testing properly.

I didn't elaborate in this thread but:

2) you CAN blame both Dell and Sony for continuing to sell the batteries after it was known.

You are attacking #1 which shows ignorance and/or bias on your part. When in fact I think you are intending to discuss #2.

I didn't think I was blaming Dell for not testing properly. What I was saying was in response to your "It is 6 out of millions of batteries." You made it sound like this was just the expected failure rate, when in fact it was a known defect.
Dell couldn't test the batteries further, no. But I'd be willing to bet Dell's cost cutting reduced the quality or even QA on the products to the point that this became a problem. Again, you don't see Thinkpads with this problem, Lenovo incorporates active power monitoring to shut down the battery were this a problem.

lol

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
The fact of the matter is that it is a known defect that puts consumers in danger. Would you say the same thing if you were driving an early model Pinto? :roll:

The fact of the matter is that the batteries were out in customers hands BEFORE the defect was known. I'm simply stated:

1) that you CANNOT blame Dell for not testing properly.

I didn't elaborate in this thread but:

2) you CAN blame both Dell and Sony for continuing to sell the batteries after it was known.

You are attacking #1 which shows ignorance and/or bias on your part. When in fact I think you are intending to discuss #2.

I didn't think I was blaming Dell for not testing properly. What I was saying was in response to your "It is 6 out of millions of batteries." You made it sound like this was just the expected failure rate, when in fact it was a known defect.
Dell couldn't test the batteries further, no. But I'd be willing to bet Dell's cost cutting reduced the quality or even QA on the products to the point that this became a problem. Again, you don't see Thinkpads with this problem, Lenovo incorporates active power monitoring to shut down the battery were this a problem.

lol

You are right. So much for that 'theory'.

 

[jlbenedict]

Sony announced their own battery recall this morning

 

[thoro86]

Poor Sony...
Please don't die before I play at least 2 more FF series

not that squaresoft can't make it on anoher console though but still...