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Dell announces monster new Laptops

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Kaido

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http://www.engadget.com/2008/0...d-m2400-mobile-workst/

If Dell has that kind of power coming out (DELL!), I can only imagine what Apple has in the works...whoohoo! 😀

One thing in particular that struck me as interesting was the amount of RAM on each machine...8gb? 16gb? Right off the bat, that means there HAS to be 4gb chips around the corner, something I've been waiting for for a LONG time! It also introduces the possibility that there may be 8gb chips, unless the M6400 has 4 memory slots, which I've never seen in a laptop. I've seen dual 500gb drives (Sager, MCEtech upgrade kits, etc.) but never more than two memory slots on a single laptop motherboard.

Additionally, the 17" has the new 1GB VRAM graphics card. That sounds pretty awesome! They also have Quad-core chips. There are some pretty hefty laptops right now that run the Q6600 and other quad-core desktop chips, but I'd imagine these are going to be running the new "Extreme" Quad-core mobile chips from Intel. They are also touting the graphics capability of their LED screens, saying they cover 100% of the Adobe color space.

Oh, and "sleeker, minimalist design" - pave the way for lower-powered mobile quad-cores, yippie! 😀

Cliff's:
New Dell laptops have crazy specs:
+ 2 x 500gb (RAID-capable)
+ LED LCD screens with 100% Adobe color space
+ Up to 16gb of RAM
+ Up to 1gb VRAM
+ Quad-core processors
 
Since its Apple they prolly will have the low end of all this stuff and charge us twice as much.

The one thing PC companies are good for is innovation, especially when it comes to power. Apple wont do any of that probably because it goes against their "aesthetic".

(I am no Apple griefer either, I own a 3 month old Pernyn MBP, I'm just disillusioned by Jobs and the company - still love the product itself).
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
http://www.engadget.com/2008/0...d-m2400-mobile-workst/

If Dell has that kind of power coming out (DELL!), I can only imagine what Apple has in the works...whoohoo! 😀

One thing in particular that struck me as interesting was the amount of RAM on each machine...8gb? 16gb? Right off the bat, that means there HAS to be 4gb chips around the corner, something I've been waiting for for a LONG time! It also introduces the possibility that there may be 8gb chips, unless the M6400 has 4 memory slots, which I've never seen in a laptop. I've seen dual 500gb drives (Sager, MCEtech upgrade kits, etc.) but never more than two memory slots on a single laptop motherboard.

Additionally, the 17" has the new 1GB VRAM graphics card. That sounds pretty awesome! They also have Quad-core chips. There are some pretty hefty laptops right now that run the Q6600 and other quad-core desktop chips, but I'd imagine these are going to be running the new "Extreme" Quad-core mobile chips from Intel. They are also touting the graphics capability of their LED screens, saying they cover 100% of the Adobe color space.

Oh, and "sleeker, minimalist design" - pave the way for lower-powered mobile quad-cores, yippie! 😀

Cliff's:
New Dell laptops have crazy specs:
+ 2 x 500gb (RAID-capable)
+ LED LCD screens with 100% Adobe color space
+ Up to 16gb of RAM
+ Up to 1gb VRAM
+ Quad-core processors
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They look cool but you're stuck using Vista/XP...

 
The point is that if Dell has it, Apple will have it soon as well (to some extent).
 
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Apple really needs a decent competitor in the low-cost portable market. Hopefully they'll finally put something out.
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Well the MSI Wind runs Leopard perfectly, and is only $549 for the 6-cell model (compared to $1800 for the Air). 10" LED with Bluetooth, add 802.11n for $40 and up to a 500gb hard drive...
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Apple really needs a decent competitor in the low-cost portable market. Hopefully they'll finally put something out.
Click to expand...

Well the MSI Wind runs Leopard perfectly, and is only $549 for the 6-cell model (compared to $1800 for the Air). 10" LED with Bluetooth, add 802.11n for $40 and up to a 500gb hard drive...
Click to expand...

Really?

That's interesting...is there a PCIe slot for the wireless card?
 
Originally posted by: Parasitic
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Apple really needs a decent competitor in the low-cost portable market. Hopefully they'll finally put something out.
Click to expand...

Well the MSI Wind runs Leopard perfectly, and is only $549 for the 6-cell model (compared to $1800 for the Air). 10" LED with Bluetooth, add 802.11n for $40 and up to a 500gb hard drive...
Click to expand...

Really?

That's interesting...is there a PCIe slot for the wireless card?
Click to expand...

Yup...you can use either the Dell 1500n or the official Apple 802.11n card if you want N. Otherwise any compatible 802.11g card will work (the stock card inside the Wind isn't Leopard-compatible). There's actually a pre-made Leopard installer disc for the Wind, details here:

http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/...for-msi-wind-t857.html

As far as upgrades go, the first thing is the wireless. Second is the RAM. It comes with 1gb soldered in and room for another 1gb stick, so all you need to do is pick up is a 1gb 667mhz from Newegg for around $20 (800mhz will work too). It won't take more than 2gb, but I wouldn't recommend running Leopard on only 1gb so definitely spend the $20! Third upgrade option is the hard drive. Unlike the $1800+ MacBook Air, this MSI Wind actually has a standard 2.5" hard drive. This means you can put up to a 500gb 5400rpm hard drive in or even a 320gb 7200rpm drive in if you want. Or even a 2.5" SATA SSD!

Aside from the replaceable default card, the only other thing that doesn't work is the line input/output and onboard mic. This means no headphones or mic input, however - the solution is a simple $8 USB sound card: (thanks Zaap for posting it!)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16812186035

That's useful if you want to use a mic since the Webcam mic doesn't work (just onboard speakers). Bluetooth and USB headsets also work, of course. So pretty much the Wind is the "missing Mac ultraportable" - LED screen, Bluetooth, Webcam, full-sized laptop hard drive, Wifi, Bluetooth, 10" screen, 3 and 6-cell configurations (2.5 and 5.5 hours and 2.3 and 2.6 pounds respectively), and come in White, Black, and Pink (no extra premium for the Black! haha). Oh and it comes with Windows XP Home if you want to dual-boot 🙂

Also, you can try to get 2-finger scrolling like on a real Mac here, although most users say the trackpad is waaaaay too small for even normal use and thus get a small mouse:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=88811
 
If newegg has 4GB sticks for $ 480.00 the Apple "approved" memory should be close to $ 1200.00. But sleep well knowing Apple has tested it and approved it for OSX.
 
They have a new promo video out:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/0...p-with-16gb-of-memory/

That really looks awesome...they say you can use dual 30" monitors, that's INSANE from a laptop! 😀 From the video, it looks like the 16gb of memory is actually four 4gb sticks, so it looks like we won't be seeing 8gb sodimms anytime soon 🙁 I really hope this can be Hackintoshed, haha...
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: Parasitic
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Apple really needs a decent competitor in the low-cost portable market. Hopefully they'll finally put something out.
Click to expand...

Well the MSI Wind runs Leopard perfectly, and is only $549 for the 6-cell model (compared to $1800 for the Air). 10" LED with Bluetooth, add 802.11n for $40 and up to a 500gb hard drive...
Click to expand...

Really?

That's interesting...is there a PCIe slot for the wireless card?
Click to expand...

Yup...you can use either the Dell 1500n or the official Apple 802.11n card if you want N. Otherwise any compatible 802.11g card will work (the stock card inside the Wind isn't Leopard-compatible). There's actually a pre-made Leopard installer disc for the Wind, details here:

http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/...for-msi-wind-t857.html

As far as upgrades go, the first thing is the wireless. Second is the RAM. It comes with 1gb soldered in and room for another 1gb stick, so all you need to do is pick up is a 1gb 667mhz from Newegg for around $20 (800mhz will work too). It won't take more than 2gb, but I wouldn't recommend running Leopard on only 1gb so definitely spend the $20! Third upgrade option is the hard drive. Unlike the $1800+ MacBook Air, this MSI Wind actually has a standard 2.5" hard drive. This means you can put up to a 500gb 5400rpm hard drive in or even a 320gb 7200rpm drive in if you want. Or even a 2.5" SATA SSD!

Aside from the replaceable default card, the only other thing that doesn't work is the line input/output and onboard mic. This means no headphones or mic input, however - the solution is a simple $8 USB sound card: (thanks Zaap for posting it!)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16812186035

That's useful if you want to use a mic since the Webcam mic doesn't work (just onboard speakers). Bluetooth and USB headsets also work, of course. So pretty much the Wind is the "missing Mac ultraportable" - LED screen, Bluetooth, Webcam, full-sized laptop hard drive, Wifi, Bluetooth, 10" screen, 3 and 6-cell configurations (2.5 and 5.5 hours and 2.3 and 2.6 pounds respectively), and come in White, Black, and Pink (no extra premium for the Black! haha). Oh and it comes with Windows XP Home if you want to dual-boot 🙂

Also, you can try to get 2-finger scrolling like on a real Mac here, although most users say the trackpad is waaaaay too small for even normal use and thus get a small mouse:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=88811
Click to expand...

i can confirm all this! i have a msi wind (3 cell version) and i run osx 10.5.5 on it perfectly! 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: Kaido
http://www.engadget.com/2008/0...d-m2400-mobile-workst/

If Dell has that kind of power coming out (DELL!), I can only imagine what Apple has in the works...whoohoo! 😀

One thing in particular that struck me as interesting was the amount of RAM on each machine...8gb? 16gb? Right off the bat, that means there HAS to be 4gb chips around the corner, something I've been waiting for for a LONG time! It also introduces the possibility that there may be 8gb chips, unless the M6400 has 4 memory slots, which I've never seen in a laptop. I've seen dual 500gb drives (Sager, MCEtech upgrade kits, etc.) but never more than two memory slots on a single laptop motherboard.

Additionally, the 17" has the new 1GB VRAM graphics card. That sounds pretty awesome! They also have Quad-core chips. There are some pretty hefty laptops right now that run the Q6600 and other quad-core desktop chips, but I'd imagine these are going to be running the new "Extreme" Quad-core mobile chips from Intel. They are also touting the graphics capability of their LED screens, saying they cover 100% of the Adobe color space.

Oh, and "sleeker, minimalist design" - pave the way for lower-powered mobile quad-cores, yippie! 😀

Cliff's:
New Dell laptops have crazy specs:
+ 2 x 500gb (RAID-capable)
+ LED LCD screens with 100% Adobe color space
+ Up to 16gb of RAM
+ Up to 1gb VRAM
+ Quad-core processors
Click to expand...



They look cool but you're stuck using Vista/XP...
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Is there a problem with that ? I dual boot with Ubuntu & Vista. Open mind please.
 
More info:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/0...werhouse-breaks-loose/

Now available for configuration on Dell's website, ships in late October. Starts at $2,599.

Features: (upper-tier)
-17" LED-backlit 1920x1200 with 100% RGB Color Gamut
-16GB RAM
-Core 2 Quad QX9300 2.53ghz
-1TB RAID 0 (2x500GB)
-1GB Quadro FX 3700M
-Bluetooth 2.1 + UWB
-802.11 a/b/g/n
-WWAN + GPS (choice of AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon)
-ExpressCard 54 and PCMCIA slots
-Firewire plus 4 x USB 2.0
-DisplayPort
-eSATA port
-15.4 x 11 x 1.35"
-8.5 pounds
-9-cell battery
-Touchpad with built-in Jog Shuttle
-Webcam with Dual Digital Array Microphone
-FIPS Certified Fingerprint Reader
-8x DL DVD burner
-Stereo speakers
-8-in-1 card reader

Right now they're only offering it with 4 gigs of RAM and no Blu-ray option. Also the 500gb drives are not available on the config page. My big complaint is that Hackintosh on laptops is usually a pretty crappy experience 🙁
 
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