Dell 2005FPW and HDTV modes

[PoopyPants]

In the interest of HD and wanting to learn about it, although the 2005FPW isnt a good start but a start none the less, What modes does a Dell 2005FPW support for HD ?

480p 480i 720p 720i 1080i 572p ?

of course dells website doesnt say anything. And infact it says max resolution is 1680x1050 and max Vert sync is 75Hz @ max resolution.

which is absolutely not true.. 60hz is tops at 1680x1050.

 

[IeraseU]

The only official HD resolution it supports is 720p which is 1280 x 720 resolution. It does not support 1080i(or 1080p) because that exceeds the resolution the monitor is capable of displaying.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

i run mine at 75hz at 1680x1050. i use powerstrip to set it.

as far as hdtv modes 720p would be the only one supported but i havnt hooked any hd sources to know if it works for sure. i know it supports the res but i think i remember reading it had problems using a real hdtv source. i could be wrong tho.

 

[PoopyPants]

yeah i figured 720 and below were the only ones.

if i remember correctly from my last ATI card you could force 720 or 480 and if you forced 720 the screen became very much ,,, well,, it had massive lines running thru it.

im just kind of messing around with my 6800 Ultra and trying different drivers and the 71.81's actually ask you after you reinstall them(if you go thru the little display setup QnA, if you want those HD modes i listed above) i simply didnt want to have it force a dsiplay mode the monitor didnt support.

Its too bad this monitor doesnt support HD on a cable box by giuving back the HD acceptance signal to the cable box, sorry i forget what its called. last time i did that it totaly fuxored my cable box and i had to return it and get a different one lol.

anywho.. thanks for the 720p info its what i was looking for.

 

[PoopyPants]

Johhny push the monitor menu button and look at the bottom i bet you 5 bucks it says 1680x1050 60hz.

i can force 75hz using the "unsupported" modes in the nvidia panel

but a quick test of the menu button on the monitor or ANY game or 3dmark will quickly show its not 75hz but infact 60

and if you did get it running without fudging the display any

come onto AIM and show me how you did it guy i cant stand these rolling lines anymore aarrgg..
shinzaburosan is my aim.
or if you have a screenshot you can email me at the link in my sig.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

it says 75hz. want to see a pic?

 

[PoopyPants]

show me how you did it
thats all i care about lol.

i wanna see a pic of it sure but more so the powerstrip settings.

but sure post a picture showing 16080x1050@75hz

DVI not DSUB

ahh i see why they said max is 75hz cuz if you use the dsub plug it IS 75hz hhmm.. guess i totally forgot about that since i dont use it.

but if your using the DVI then show me and teach me how.

 

[IeraseU]

Why do you want higher then 60hz on an LCD? Hz is meaningless on an LCD. On a CRT hz refers to the number of times the monitor has to redraw the screen per second. Therefore if your hz is too low, you will see the 'flickering' of the image being redrawn. The 'magic' number where you can not tell the screen is being redrawn differs among people, but 85hz or up should work for the majority of individuals. This is why people want high hz CRT monitors, the higher the better, since the more frequently your monitor refreshes its screen per second, the less 'flickering' you will be notice. Overtime this flickering can cause headaches or 'tire' a persons eyes more quickly then normal.

However LCD's on the other hand, do not need to redraw the screen. The image on the screen stays there constantly until something changes. Therefore having a higher 'hz' on an LCD screen is not really a sought after feature. Actually the fact that LCD's do not have flicker is of great benefit in reducing eye strain and other negative factors associated with the 'flicker' of a CRT. Many people report that if you use an LCD for a long period of time, then stare at a CRT screen, regardless of how high the hz is set, you will immediately start to notice the greater eye strain.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Why do you want higher then 60hz on an LCD? Hz is meaningless on an LCD.

higher fps when using vsync for one.

 

[PoopyPants]

and thats a lie

once again the age old hz on an lcd war..

if its meaningless then you mind telling me why 60hz has the infamous rolling lines and 75hz dont ? hhmm can you explain that ?
and im talking lets say 1280x1024 which this monitor does handle at 75hz...
If they are menaingless then why does ever LCD made whether its a $50 elcheapo or 5000 mega LCD use a REFRESH RATE listing and consisting of Hz. ?
can you explain why 60hz on my monitor and every monitor i have ever seen has rolling lines and flicker that is the exact same thing you will see on a CRT with 60hz refresh rate. ?? ?
if they dont use a "refresh rate" or some form or fasion of one then why does Verticle Sync cause most but not all roling lines to go away ?
vert. sync = locking the applications FPS at the exact verticle refresh rate.
if they dont use a refresh rate.... must i go on with more ?
its a fact an LCD running 60hz vs 75hz WILL show rolling lines.
and VERY VERY few LCD's do NOT show rolling lines and flicker caused by 60 hz refresh.
the 2005fpw is not one of them,,, it shows it pretty bad...

I am NOT saying its not a TECHNICAL fact that they DONT use a refresh rate all im saying is that real life talks and b.s. walks and an LCD running 60hz WILL have flicker and rolling lines UNLESS its a pretty damnexpensive one,, and the only way to remove them is to run a higher refresh or lower resolution and higher refresh.
so refresh or not to refresh you decide but the evidence speaks for itself...