DeLay Turned Down Plea Bargain . . . Before Indictment . .

CaptnKirk

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Offered a Misdemeaner and Refused

Seems he could have kept his job and not had to step down if he had co-operated.
But then again, the presssure would have been for him to resign.

Now the lawyers play their games - we'll have to see what the law brings down on him.
 
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DeGuerin has a stellar reputation, and he's definitely approaching this case balls-out. I'm not about to second-guess such a well-respected, experienced litigator, but it's a strategy that could really blow up in his face.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Possibly.. but maybe he was trying to save DeLay from the embarassment of a full investiagation.
 
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

That's what prosecutors do. Something like 90+% of all criminal cases end in plea bargains of one variety or another.
 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Possibly.. but maybe he was trying to save DeLay from the embarassment of a full investiagation.
Well the investigation had been ongoing for a couple of years already, so it would be a bit late for that.

Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

That's what prosecutors do. Something like 90+% of all criminal cases end in plea bargains of one variety or another.
Does that statistic apply to prosecutions in politically involved cases as well?
 

CaptnKirk

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I'm sure more details will be available tommorow . . . keyboards are going to be smoking tonight.

 
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Originally posted by: DonVito
DeGuerin has a stellar reputation, and he's definitely approaching this case balls-out. I'm not about to second-guess such a well-respected, experienced litigator, but it's a strategy that could really blow up in his face.

Funny, I heard even a democratic strategist call him a partisan activist.




But I'll take your word for it.



:roll:
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Possibly.. but maybe he was trying to save DeLay from the embarassment of a full investiagation.
Well the investigation had been ongoing for a couple of years already, so it would be a bit late for that.

Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

That's what prosecutors do. Something like 90+% of all criminal cases end in plea bargains of one variety or another.
Does that statistic apply to prosecutions in politically involved cases as well?

And while you're at it, politically involved where the prosecutor is a Democrat prosecuting a Republican cause that will be the next question followed, of course, by questions about relative shoe sizes.
 

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No but go ahead and take the word of this "democratic strategist" so that it will fit your views....like you would give a fly fvck what this dude said unless it fit your agenda.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Exactly, I don't think they have much of a case against Delay. Do I think he's guilty? Probably. Do I think he'll be convicted? Not a chance.
 
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DonVito
DeGuerin has a stellar reputation, and he's definitely approaching this case balls-out. I'm not about to second-guess such a well-respected, experienced litigator, but it's a strategy that could really blow up in his face.

Funny, I heard even a democratic strategist call him a partisan activist.




But I'll take your word for it.



:roll:


Do you even know who DeGuerin is?
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Exactly, I don't think they have much of a case against Delay. Do I think he's guilty? Probably. Do I think he'll be convicted? Not a chance.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day long, way to go ntdz.
 

BBond

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Why weren't all of these Republicans complaining about partisan investigations when that worm, Ken Starr, was wasting $70 million in taxpayer funds to chase Bill Clinton for eight long years?

 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Exactly, I don't think they have much of a case against Delay. Do I think he's guilty? Probably. Do I think he'll be convicted? Not a chance.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day long, way to go ntdz.

if the glove does not fit, you must acquit.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Exactly, I don't think they have much of a case against Delay. Do I think he's guilty? Probably. Do I think he'll be convicted? Not a chance.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day long, way to go ntdz.

if the glove does not fit, you must acquit.

The "dumbest thing glove" definitely fits in this case.
 
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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DonVito
DeGuerin has a stellar reputation, and he's definitely approaching this case balls-out. I'm not about to second-guess such a well-respected, experienced litigator, but it's a strategy that could really blow up in his face.

Funny, I heard even a democratic strategist call him a partisan activist.




But I'll take your word for it.



:roll:


Do you even know who DeGuerin is?

Is this the same Bradley DeGuerin I play basketball with in my church league?

;) Yeah, I forgot the prosecuter's name for a minute. My bad. Sarcasm apologized for.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: BBond
Why weren't all of these Republicans complaining about partisan investigations when that worm, Ken Starr, was wasting $70 million in taxpayer funds to chase Bill Clinton for eight long years?

HAHA!
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

Exactly, I don't think they have much of a case against Delay. Do I think he's guilty? Probably. Do I think he'll be convicted? Not a chance.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day long, way to go ntdz.

How is it dumb? All I'm saying is that he won't be convicted even though he's probably guilty. Do you disagree with this?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Earle had a strong case in the first place, why would he be offering a plea bargain right off the bat?

That's what prosecutors do. Something like 90+% of all criminal cases end in plea bargains of one variety or another.

Yep, I know first hand.

It was going to cost $100,000 just for the start of trial.

The longer the trial would go the more it would cost over and above the $100,000

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
DeLay Turned Down Plea Bargain . . .
Good. I want to see the scumbag rot in a cell for a good number of years.
 
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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: BBond
Why weren't all of these Republicans complaining about partisan investigations when that worm, Ken Starr, was wasting $70 million in taxpayer funds to chase Bill Clinton for eight long years?

HAHA!
Why are the Democrats complaining now after going through that previously and seeing as it should be easily recognizable?

I saw the persecution of Clinton for what it was and it's plainly obvious the Delay case is no different, if not payback.

But without things like this the word "partisan" wouldn't exist...so I guess it has its purpose.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I saw the persecution of Clinton for what it was and it's plainly obvious the Delay case is no different, if not payback.
You are joking, right? :roll:

Clinton's major crime was failure to return his fly to its full upright position on landing while DeLay has been funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal campaing money, taking kickbacks in the form of cash, vacations and property to influence legislation favorable to his contributors, but not necessarily the public interest.

Yep! If those are equivalents, it's got to be in some other universe. I want him to meet his new boyfriend, Bubba. Sooner is better! :|
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: BBond
Why weren't all of these Republicans complaining about partisan investigations when that worm, Ken Starr, was wasting $70 million in taxpayer funds to chase Bill Clinton for eight long years?

HAHA!
Why are the Democrats complaining now after going through that previously and seeing as it should be easily recognizable?

I saw the persecution of Clinton for what it was and it's plainly obvious the Delay case is no different, if not payback.

But without things like this the word "partisan" wouldn't exist...so I guess it has its purpose.

I'll let the jury decide whether the charges against DeLay are partisan. Just because you people obstructed the executive branch for eight long years and wound up with a lie about private matters between two consenting adults that doesn't mean there aren't legitimate charges to be pursued against genuine criminals like DeLay.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: BBond
Why weren't all of these Republicans complaining about partisan investigations when that worm, Ken Starr, was wasting $70 million in taxpayer funds to chase Bill Clinton for eight long years?

HAHA!
Why are the Democrats complaining now after going through that previously and seeing as it should be easily recognizable?

I saw the persecution of Clinton for what it was and it's plainly obvious the Delay case is no different, if not payback.

But without things like this the word "partisan" wouldn't exist...so I guess it has its purpose.

Do all the teenage girls and boys realize they are committing a serious crime when they engage in oral sex acoording to the Republicans???