Defraggler is the worst Defragmenter on the planet!

[Berryracer]

I love and trust Pirifrom's CCleaner so much it's my fav. tool but it surprises me that such a good developer releases this Defraggler... on many occasions, I tried it, and got the same results, but everytime they release a new version. I feel like giving it the benefit of the doubt....no luck...

I have a 1 TB HDD along with my SSDs (which I don't defrag obviosly)

So I click on the HDD and hit defrag, estimated time to finish is 9.5 hours for god's sake! and I'm wondering, what on earth is it doing?

Even PerfectDisk although uses a more advanced method of defargmentation called SmartPlacement which places the most used files on the outer edge of the disk for faster access, still beats defraggler by a foot's pole

So after I was intimidated by that 9.5 hour ETA, I quickly closed it and ran the Windows built in Defragmenter it finished the job within 10 mins!

surprisin' me... heh

 

[boochi]

Just let Windows 7 take care of the defragmentation. Since you are running a SSD which should not be defragmented, your mechanical drives are likely only storing data and fragmentation is not much of a problem. Windows 7 and Windows 8 have excellent defragmentation algorithms built in and one rarely needs anything more.

 

[MontyAC]

Try this one, it's good and fast and free:

http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag/

 

[Nothinman]

I love and trust Pirifrom's CCleaner so much it's my fav. tool but it surprises me that such a good developer releases this Defraggler... on many occasions, I tried it, and got the same results, but everytime they release a new version. I feel like giving it the benefit of the doubt....no luck...

I have a 1 TB HDD along with my SSDs (which I don't defrag obviosly)

So I click on the HDD and hit defrag, estimated time to finish is 9.5 hours for god's sake! and I'm wondering, what on earth is it doing?

Even PerfectDisk although uses a more advanced method of defargmentation called SmartPlacement which places the most used files on the outer edge of the disk for faster access, still beats defraggler by a foot's pole

So after I was intimidated by that 9.5 hour ETA, I quickly closed it and ran the Windows built in Defragmenter it finished the job within 10 mins!

surprisin' me... heh

You've already wasted more time looking at this than you can potentially save with defragging. Just stop and let Windows do its thing.

 

[zebrax2]

I agree with Nothinman. I haven't run defrag since i installed my current OS (over a year old) and its <5% fragmentation right now (basically negligible) which just shows how good modern OS are at eliminating fragmentation without the need for user intervention

 

[Towermax]

Just let it run for a bit and you'll see the estimated time dropping quickly. I ran Defraggler this morning on a 1TB drive and it started at 18 hours and completed within 30 minutes. The estimated time kept dropping all the way . . .

I only use Defraggler after I have done a bunch of downloading and housekeeping--cleaning up and moving files, etc. The rest of the time, Windows defrag keeps things in good shape.

 

[Berryracer]

Just let Windows 7 take care of the defragmentation. Since you are running a SSD which should not be defragmented, your mechanical drives are likely only storing data and fragmentation is not much of a problem. Windows 7 and Windows 8 have excellent defragmentation algorithms built in and one rarely needs anything more.

yes you're right I won't notice a difference probably because my OS and software folder (where I keep the setup EXEs of all my programs) are on the SSD

The point I was trying to bring is how crappy Defraggler is

 

[Revolution 11]

Its not that bad, just don't look at the estimated time and expect it to be anything close to the real time it takes.

 

[Kaido]

I'm a big fan of SmartDefrag:

http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.html

It starts defragging when you haven't used your computer for a few minutes.

 

[AMDZen]

Defraggler is the shiz

I have used it for a long time now with absolutely no issues, nothing even remotely like what you are describing

 

[boochi]

I only keep the pr0n collection on e: (my HDD)

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This post wasn't necessary for a technical thread
-ViRGE

 

[Berryracer]

Defraggler is the shiz

I have used it for a long time now with absolutely no issues, nothing even remotely like what you are describing

Strange, totally different experience in my case

 

[Nothinman]

yes you're right I won't notice a difference probably because my OS and software folder (where I keep the setup EXEs of all my programs) are on the SSD

I only keep the pr0n collection on e: (my HDD)

The point I was trying to bring is how crappy Defraggler is

All 3rd party defrag tools are essentially snake-oil at this point. Being bad snake-oil is just funny and sad.

 

[Gintaras]

I agree with Nothinman. I haven't run defrag since i installed my current OS (over a year old) and its <5% fragmentation right now (basically negligible) which just shows how good modern OS are at eliminating fragmentation without the need for user intervention

OS does not do anything about fragmentation...
Are you familiar how data to HDD is written?

Let's say, you do delete some files/folder...on WinX GUI it goes to Recycle Bin...on HDD - stays were it was - these aren't deleted unless you click on "Empty Recycle Bin".
New files are written on parts of HDD that has no data yet...
Once you hit "Empty Recycle Bin" and then new files would be written to area where deleted files, before emptying Recycle Bin were...
That's how is creating File Fragmentation - parts of files written to empty disc area, part of files written in deleted(after Empty Recycle Bin) area...

I do use O&O Defrag Free Edition

I do use Defrag because I want to prolong HDD life - to reduce those extra HDD spins, head movements to look for file fragments on HDD platters....

 

[zebrax2]

OS does not do anything about fragmentation...
Are you familiar how data to HDD is written?

Windows have a built-in defragmenter that runs when your PC is idle. So while technically the OS does nothing about the fragmentation the program bundled with it does though

 

[Nothinman]

OS does not do anything about fragmentation...
Are you familiar how data to HDD is written?

Let's say, you do delete some files/folder...on WinX GUI it goes to Recycle Bin...on HDD - stays were it was - these aren't deleted unless you click on "Empty Recycle Bin".
New files are written on parts of HDD that has no data yet...
Once you hit "Empty Recycle Bin" and then new files would be written to area where deleted files, before emptying Recycle Bin were...
That's how is creating File Fragmentation - parts of files written to empty disc area, part of files written in deleted(after Empty Recycle Bin) area...

I do use O&O Defrag Free Edition

I do use Defrag because I want to prolong HDD life - to reduce those extra HDD spins, head movements to look for file fragments on HDD platters....

All modern OSes, to varying degrees, fight fragmentation with things like preallocation, block groups and other smart block allocation strategies. Windows definitely isn't the best, but huge improvements have been made to the NTFS driver over the past decade or so. To the point where it just doesn't matter any longer, let NTFS.sys do its thing and let the built-in scheduled defrag run on occasion and performance will be just fine. I would bet money that after say 6 months a system left in that state compared to one with any 3rd party defrag tool would perform virtually the same.