Definite proof that most of Digg readers are idiots

halik

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this killed good 30 mins off my work day... funny proofs why 1 is not equal 0.999999 repeating
 

edro

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It all comes down to whether or not you can describe .99... as a solid never changing entity. If you believe .99... is the same as .99..., then it equals 1.

If you believe that .99... is an idea or concept and not really an actual number, then no, it does not equal 1.
 

ultimatebob

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Yeah... Digg should stick with things that they know, like drooling over the latest fake Apple rumor.
 

DannyLove

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I got one for you.... who gives a fvck.. i'm tired of seeing these threads regard .999=1 bla bla bla... SO WHAT! open the door, walk outside.... jesus!
 

Stuxnet

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You guys are arguing over symantics as they relate to their own specific contexts.

Does 1 = 0.99...?

Depends
 

j00fek

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Originally posted by: DannyLove
I got one for you.... who gives a fvck.. i'm tired of seeing these threads regard .999=1 bla bla bla... SO WHAT! open the door, walk outside.... jesus!

:thumbsup:
 

Coolone

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Originally posted by: DannyLove
I got one for you.... who gives a fvck.. i'm tired of seeing these threads regard .999=1 bla bla bla... SO WHAT! open the door, walk outside.... jesus!

QFT
 

KarmaPolice

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Hrmmm its been a while since I took calc...answer a question for me...

Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?


I am not going to try to say they are wrong...they are math people..i suck at math...but wondering.
 

QED

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Hrmmm its been a while since I took calc...answer a question for me...

Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?


I am not going to try to say they are wrong...they are math people..i suck at math...but wondering.

Yes, but it doesn't "just approach" 1.. it is actually 1.

I think people are confusing the reprentation of a number with the number itself.

.99999999 and 1 are just two ways to represent the number we think of as 1.
 

fitzov

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Hrmmm its been a while since I took calc...answer a question for me...

Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?


I am not going to try to say they are wrong...they are math people..i suck at math...but wondering.

it approaches 1--it is not equal to 1. the only way I can think of (besides a simple logical proof) to prove it is by showing a graph of two functions--one whose range will go from .9 and approach 1 as it's domain increases while the other has a range of 1 for any domain.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?
No, .99.... is a concrete number with an exact value. It doesn't approach anything. That's like asking if 2/3 approaches 4/6, or if 3 approaches pi. However, there are number of functions that define 0.99.... that do approach 1 the closer you get to infinity, like the sum of 9/10^x. Similarly, the sum 1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9... approaces pi/4 when taken to a large number of steps. When evaluated at infinity it is exactly pi/4.

The sum of 9/10^x is exactly equal to 1 when taken to infinity.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: fitzov
Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Hrmmm its been a while since I took calc...answer a question for me...

Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?

I am not going to try to say they are wrong...they are math people..i suck at math...but wondering.
it approaches 1--it is not equal to 1. the only way I can think of (besides a simple logical proof) to prove it is by showing a graph of two functions--one whose range will go from .9 and approach 1 as it's domain increases while the other has a range of 1 for any domain.
0.99... isn't a function, it is a concrete number. Its value doesn't fluctuate over time. There are functions that exist that approximate this number, and when taken to infinity they are exactly equal, but only when taken to infinty. The sum of 9/10^x approaches 1 as you increase x, but that function doesn't define 0.99... unless x is infinity. When x=infinty, the value of that function is 1.
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Limits....wouldnt .9999999 repeating be appraoching 1?
No, .99.... is a concrete number with an exact value. It doesn't approach anything. That's like asking if 2/3 approaches 4/6, or if 3 approaches pi. However, there are number of functions that define 0.99.... that do approach 1 the closer you get to infinity, like the sum of 9/10^x. Similarly, the sum 1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9... approaces pi/4 when taken to a large number of steps. When evaluated at infinity it is exactly pi/4.

The sum of 9/10^x is exactly equal to 1 when taken to infinity.

No. .99... isn't a exact value. It repeats infinately. It is like saying 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 and so on. It never ends, but keeps on APPROACHING one. It becomes so close to one that it is arguably ok to ignore the diffference, but it is definately not the exact same number as 1.