Decisions! -- work at Kroll or get my associates/bachlors?

[ViviTheMage]

I want to get some Entry Level experience and Krollonline has a great job opening here in EP.

I have 2 more semesters until I can get my associates, then maybe 2-3 more years for my bachelors.

Otherwise I can work at Kroll and get some school paid for while working 3-11pm (second shift, hopefuly along the line I can get 8-4). Its a entry level data entry position, but they have some good benefits and will pay some schooling! It pays roughly 35k a year, so I am kind of lost what to do!

I am getting my BAS in computer technology infrastructure. I have heard experience is worth more then an education in the IT field. What would you do?

 

[SagaLore]

Just get your degree.

I got a full time technical job before I finished enough credits to get an associate's degree.

I started college in '98.

It wasn't until '02 I finally finished enough to get the associates. Its '06 and I'm struggling to finish my bachelor's degree.

If you choose the entry level job over your degree, you're only lowering your advancement ceiling. There will always be an entry level job. There are far less high-level jobs, and you can't get into those without the degrees.

 

[ViviTheMage]

yes, this ceiling thing...I made a thread a week or so back and there was a pretty big argument over this 'ceiling'.

I may be able to get my associates, then my bachelors AND have it paid for while working at Kroll....but I dont know if I should risk my personal life for school/work...Im only 19! haha

 

[ViviTheMage]

anymore opinions?

 

[Descartes]

I remember that other thread, so the fact that you're making another tells me one thing: You're confused.

That's fine of course, and there's nothing wrong with that; however, I would stop asking others for advice. You need to figure out what you want, not what someone else tells you you should want. Ultimately you're going to be the most successful following the path that you decide, but as with all things, you have to consider your goal and the means to get there.

IMO, there's nothing wrong with working and going to school. Some people say you miss the college experience, but maybe that doesn't matter to you. Some say you don't get the same quality education, but that depends more on you than the circumstances. The end result will likely be the same, but there's a chance you'll come out ahead with more experience. As we discussed in previous threads, experience is what matters.

Now, I can tell you what I did. I started working for MCI WorldCom when I was 17. I was making more money than most college graduates make. My college was later paid for by the company. I was at a senior level before most people were starting their careers, and I've been light years ahead of my peers ever since. It's paid off in more ways than I ever thought possible, but I took a path that I felt was right, not one that everyone kept telling me I should. I knew what what would work for me, and you need to find our for yourself what works for you.

That's my $0.02.

 

[ViviTheMage]

exactly descartes.

That is what I want to do, get away from the loans (not too many, at a community college right now) and just work on the experience.

There are senior level admins who have no degree, just experience. So I feel more strongly with experience.

When I had my phone interview with kroll she said 'looks like you have your bachelors' I said, no I am on my sophomore year at Normandale. She almost brushed it off and asked me for my experiences and now I have a in person interview based on experience alone.

The job listing said you have to have a bachelors....look at that, skip 4 years and collect your free tuition? hahaha

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
exactly descartes.

That is what I want to do, get away from the loans (not too many, at a community college right now) and just work on the experience.

There are senior level admins who have no degree, just experience. So I feel more strongly with experience.

When I had my phone interview with kroll she said 'looks like you have your bachelors' I said, no I am on my sophomore year at Normandale. She almost brushed it off and asked me for my experiences and now I have a in person interview based on experience alone.

The job listing said you have to have a bachelors....look at that, skip 4 years and collect your free tuition? hahaha

Based on the comments you've made, it sounds like you know what you want to do (this might be in conflict with my confused comment, but I'll clarify), but since it's not a traditional path you're at conflict with the decision; you're then looking for others to confirm what you already know/wish, and sadly you're not going to find that. The reality is that the majority of people know of only one path to success, and even then it's hardly guaranteed. I only wish that counselors would point out alternate paths so that those that don't thrive in traditional atmospheres have a means to realize their full potential. I think it's a shame, really. A lot of people never realize their potential because they're too busy trying to realize the expectations of others.

So, in short: Provided that you have goals, you have to have the means to get there obviously. Most people follow the traditional path or else it wouldn't be traditional, but only you can decide if the other options agree with your goals. Choose a path with conviction and without equivocation, follow it with intense focus and keep going until the end.

 

[crystal]

entry level data entry position

You will bore out of your mind in 2 weeks, top! What useful experience do you gain with that job anyway...
If you don't like loans and want your job to pay for your continuing education, then take the job.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: crystal
entry level data entry position

You will bore out of your mind in 2 weeks, top! What useful experience do you gain with that job anyway...
If you don't like loans and want your job to pay for your continuing education, then take the job.

I know, I was told it is pretty boring, BUT I like the name on my resume. They are very creditable , at least from whome I have talked to in HR offices.

Its now senior position, but it can be the start.

The only thing that would keep me from this job are the hours.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: crystal
entry level data entry position

You will bore out of your mind in 2 weeks, top! What useful experience do you gain with that job anyway...
If you don't like loans and want your job to pay for your continuing education, then take the job.

I know, I was told it is pretty boring, BUT I like the name on my resume. They are very creditable , at least from whome I have talked to in HR offices.

Its now senior position, but it can be the start.

The only thing that would keep me from this job are the hours.

do part time there and part time at another job

at the same time, finish school

wasn't easy for a lot of people, the road less taken is sometimes the road more rewarding than the easy paths in life

 

[ViviTheMage]

I would love a part time job there,I will have to ask I guess.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
I know, I was told it is pretty boring, BUT I like the name on my resume. They are very creditable , at least from whome I have talked to in HR offices.

Its now senior position, but it can be the start.

The only thing that would keep me from this job are the hours.

I've never heard of Krollonline. Is that a local ISP?