Debian Unstable is being unstable.

drag

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For people using Debian Unstable be aware that it's undergoing a huge transition/upgrade period. There are some major things that are changing.

X.org is now entering Debian.. 6.8.2. Also they are switching the C++ ABI from Gcc3 to Gcc4

Both of these things are causing large amounts of packages to be non-upgradable, or that when you upgrade one package it will try to unstall several packages.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: drag


For people using Debian Unstable be aware that it's undergoing a huge transition/upgrade period. There are some major things that are changing.

X.org is now entering Debian.. 6.8.2. Also they are switching the C++ ABI from Gcc3 to Gcc4

Both of these things are causing large amounts of packages to be non-upgradable, or that when you upgrade one package it will try to unstall several packages.

Thanks for the heads up. I was going to update tonight, too.
 

Nothinman

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The Xorg transition supposedly is really smooth as long as you don't have anything that depends on the GLU libraries, since they haven't been upated.

The other major thing is aspell, apparently a library was renamed and now everything that depended will need to be rebuilt, why the name was changed I have no idea.

As for the GCC change, I don't seem to notice a lot of breakage from that but that's probably because I don't have a lot of C++ software installed. The only noticable thing is aptitude, but aptitude sucks anyway =)
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: drag


For people using Debian Unstable be aware that it's undergoing a huge transition/upgrade period. There are some major things that are changing.

X.org is now entering Debian.. 6.8.2. Also they are switching the C++ ABI from Gcc3 to Gcc4

Both of these things are causing large amounts of packages to be non-upgradable, or that when you upgrade one package it will try to unstall several packages.

Thanks for the heads up. I was going to update tonight, too.

Doing a regular 'apt-get upgrade' should be fine. It won't uninstall or unstall any dependancies, only upgrade them.

It's easy to get into trouble right now doing a dist-upgrade or trying to install certain packages. For isntance if I try to install 'jackd' it tries to uninstall kde among numerious other packages.
 

Nothinman

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That is a remarkable statement! From the office of redundant redundantcy.

Oddly enough a lot of people are crying about the amount of breakage in sid right now, usually I consider Debian unstable to be more stable than most other distributions official releases but right now everyone's pushing in their huge changes since sarge was released recently so sid will probably be in a pretty big state of flux for at least a couple of weeks.
 

Nothinman

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Yup. I believe it's the default compiler in FC4 and it will be for the next Debian release.