Death to Pan and Scan movies!

[sharkeeper]

My wife was at Monica's (that's what we call BJ's wholesale club - you figure out why! ) and was going to buy the trilogy DVD set for me but she said all they had was fullscreen! :|

Why do they even make these in foolscreen? Don't people realise how much is getting cut off?

To make matters worse, I saw a DVD player with a letterbox eliminator. This is just silly.

:|

Cheers!

 

[joinT]

Yea it's stupid.. So all the silver's were gone eh? That sucks.

 

[sandorski]

Boooooooooooooooooooooo, crappy Fullscreen should just die already. :|

 

[Frew]

fullscreen is like looking at girl and only being able to see her face.

 

[mobobuff]

Not all fullscreen movies use Pan & Scan, the ones that do are horrible, it makes me nauseas.

I hate letterboxing, to be honest, if I'm watching a non-fullscreen DVD (I watch DVDs on my PC) I have PowerDVD ignore the original aspect ratio and just stretch the vertical a little. People are a lot skinnier but at least I don't have to look at black bars.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: LeadFrog
fullscreen is like looking at girl, only being able to see her face, and then proceeding into a pitch black dark room to have sex with her.

 

[sharkeeper]

I hate letterboxing, to be honest, if I'm watching a non-fullscreen DVD (I watch DVDs on my PC) I have PowerDVD ignore the original aspect ratio and just stretch the vertical a little. People are a lot skinnier but at least I don't have to look at black bars.

If your contrast is correct there will be no black bars, just unlit area.

I'd much rather have this than distort the aspect ratio of the movie! That's actually worse then cutting off the sides!

Cheers!

 

[mobobuff]

I dunno. When I watch a movie, I'm in it more for the story, not so much the visuals. I don't mind if there's a foot or so to the left and right of the frame that I'm not seeing, just as long as I'm using all available screen area.

If I viewed movies on a widescreen format TV, then obviously I'd want widescreen.

And yes, I am that guy that sits in the very first row in IMAX movies.

 

[kami333]

More DVDs should be released with both FS and WS on the same disk, then I can pick and choose depending on the tv I am watching it on.

Makes no difference whether a movie is in FS or WS if the WS is too small too see on my 13" tv in my bedroom, but then again on the 27" in the living room or if I use my projector then WS is better.

 

[Deeko]

Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

 

[iamwiz82]

Ahh... the WS elitist group is out and about today.

This is very similar to the arguements about automatic versus manual transmissions.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
I dunno. When I watch a movie, I'm in it more for the story, not so much the visuals. I don't mind if there's a foot or so to the left and right of the frame that I'm not seeing, just as long as I'm using all available screen area.

If I viewed movies on a widescreen format TV, then obviously I'd want widescreen.

And yes, I am that guy that sits in the very first row in IMAX movies.

umm dude you need to turn in your balls no self respecting computer geek should prefer fullscreen

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

I bet I could take a movie originally shot in 4:3 that you have never seen, crop all of its frames to 16:9, and you wouldn't know the friggin' difference.

What about all the crap behind that camera that you're not seeing? Hmmm!?

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: mobobuff
I dunno. When I watch a movie, I'm in it more for the story, not so much the visuals. I don't mind if there's a foot or so to the left and right of the frame that I'm not seeing, just as long as I'm using all available screen area.

If I viewed movies on a widescreen format TV, then obviously I'd want widescreen.

And yes, I am that guy that sits in the very first row in IMAX movies.

umm dude you need to turn in your balls no self respecting computer geek should prefer fullscreen

Oh, sorry, I didn't know being a computer geek had ANYTHING TO DO WITH WATCHING MOVIES! Wow, your logic is undeniable! :laugh: Turn in your brain cells.

 

[Amused]

If someone is watching a 20 or 27 inch TV from across a room, I can fully understand why they would prefer fullscreen DVDs.

I prefer OAR myself, but if I was watching a movie on a small screen and too far away, I'd hate letterboxing too. ESPECIALLY if I was old and had poor eyesight.

Before you insult others, you should TRY to understand why some feel that way.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Amused
If someone is watching a 20 or 27 inch TV from across a room, I can fully understand why they would prefer fullscreen DVDs.

I prefer OAR myself, but if I was watching a movie on a small screen and too far away, I'd hate letterboxing too. ESPECIALLY if I was old and had poor eyesight.

Before you insult others, you should TRY to understand why some feel that way.

Thank you, glad to see some people can still grasp simple concepts.

I watch DVDs on a 19" (18" viewable) CRT monitor from my bed which is a good 10 feet away. Widescreen gives me headaches from that distance!

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Deeko
Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

I bet I could take a movie originally shot in 4:3 that you have never seen, crop all of its frames to 16:9, and you wouldn't know the friggin' difference.

What about all the crap behind that camera that you're not seeing? Hmmm!?

if the movie was framed 4:3 I could tell u right away something is wrong. hell I could proubly even tell you something was wrong if it was framed to be cropped. (shot in 4:3 but later planned on cutting it down to 16:9)

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Deeko
Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

I bet I could take a movie originally shot in 4:3 that you have never seen, crop all of its frames to 16:9, and you wouldn't know the friggin' difference.

What about all the crap behind that camera that you're not seeing? Hmmm!?

if the movie was framed 4:3 I could tell u right away something is wrong. hell I could proubly even tell you something was wrong if it was framed to be cropped. (shot in 4:3 but later planned on cutting it down to 16:9)

How?

 

[Qwest]

there are so many good examples we saw in film class a few years ago where you are literally losing the picture with fs and ws.

kinda rushed, i could only find these 2 examples.

pan and scan

widescreen

 

[Argo]

I always buy full screen because I hate the black strips on top and bottom of the TV.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Deeko
Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

I bet I could take a movie originally shot in 4:3 that you have never seen, crop all of its frames to 16:9, and you wouldn't know the friggin' difference.

What about all the crap behind that camera that you're not seeing? Hmmm!?

if the movie was framed 4:3 I could tell u right away something is wrong. hell I could proubly even tell you something was wrong if it was framed to be cropped. (shot in 4:3 but later planned on cutting it down to 16:9)

The OAR for ALL of Stanley Kubrick's movies was 4:3. The studio would chop them down to 16:9 for theatrical release.

Many movies are filmed in 4:3 with the intent of matting them down to 16:9 or 2.34:1. More than you could name, I'm sure.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: Deeko
Because the average idiot doesn't know things are cut off or stretched..they just know that widescreen has bars on their tv.

Kami is illustrating this point(no offense).

I bet I could take a movie originally shot in 4:3 that you have never seen, crop all of its frames to 16:9, and you wouldn't know the friggin' difference.

What about all the crap behind that camera that you're not seeing? Hmmm!?

if the movie was framed 4:3 I could tell u right away something is wrong. hell I could proubly even tell you something was wrong if it was framed to be cropped. (shot in 4:3 but later planned on cutting it down to 16:9)

How?

if the movie maker is worth a damn he uses framming to his advantage if the movie was shot in 4:3 and was supposed to be shown that way then when it was letterboxed thier wouldn't be enough headroom/heads would be chopped off, framming would just look odd in general. ( I work in video production so I'm a bit more sensitive to this stuff since I know what I should be seeing from someone who knows what thier doing)

 

[Qwest]

much better page with up to date examples of fs vs. ws.

 

[Gibson486]

I have a 27 in TV, and while i do not mind widescreen at all....I'd rather get the full screen version.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: binoculaz
much better page with up to date examples of fs vs. ws.

What this site and others like it fail to show is Open Matte. Where a movie is shot in 4:3, matted to another aspect ration, and unmatted for the "full screen" version of a DVD or tape.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: LeadFrog
fullscreen is like looking at girl and only being able to see her face.

You look at their face?