Death to Al Queda! - The last straw...

[NogginBoink]

Methinks y'all are debating the wrong point here.

The death of one dog in a videotaped demonstration is irrelevant.

However, if that tape (I haven't seen it) does provide evidence that <insert target-of-the-day's name here> does have a chemical agent that can be deployed in aerosol form, it suggests that <your favorite name, again> may also have the technology to use this agent to kill many thousands, or tens of thousands, or millions of people using said agent.

Who cares about the dog being killed? Probably nobody, other than PETA.

But if it indicates that the <whoever> now has a weapon of mass destruction, that's a highly relevant issue that the world needs to pay attention to.

So in my mind, the debate is not about killing one dog, but whether this indicates the possession of a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

 

[Random Variable]

CNN discovered these tapes, not the U.S. government. And if you actually watch CNN, you would know that in recent weeks many on-air personalties on the network have spoken out against an attack on Iraq.

 

[Salvador]

It's time to take these F*ckers out!!

Sal

 

[Novgrod]

This reminds me of the smallish fact released this year that the US navy tested chemical agents onboard ships without the crew's knowledge to test readiness. Thankfully no deaths, i believe. too lazy to look up a link.

 

[Cyberian]

Now you've ruined the whole discussion by resorting to logic.

Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Methinks y'all are debating the wrong point here.

The death of one dog in a videotaped demonstration is irrelevant.

However, if that tape (I haven't seen it) does provide evidence that <insert target-of-the-day's name here> does have a chemical agent that can be deployed in aerosol form, it suggests that <your favorite name, again> may also have the technology to use this agent to kill many thousands, or tens of thousands, or millions of people using said agent.

Who cares about the dog being killed? Probably nobody, other than PETA.

But if it indicates that the <whoever> now has a weapon of mass destruction, that's a highly relevant issue that the world needs to pay attention to.

So in my mind, the debate is not about killing one dog, but whether this indicates the possession of a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

 

[Fulcrum]

It's funny how some people react: Kill a few people, that's bad, but no huge deal. But kill a dog...

 

[Bulk Beef]

For all you nimrods calling this propaganda, you do realize that the main character in the video isn't the dog, right?

Hint: it's the gas.

 

[shiner]

Osama Says he has nukes

Osama and WMD

Possible Al Quada chemical lab in Iraq

1998 Indictment of Bin Laden

Iraq & chemical weapons

Iraqi nuclear weapons

General link about Iraq and WMD

Can Iraq rebuild it's WMD arsenal?

Good link about the failure of UNSCOM

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Authentic or not, very clever PR.

"Manufacturing consent".

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: jjsole


Also the legalized cruelty to farm animals, keeping them in tight stocks where they can hardly move, even when their pregnant. Its disgusting.

You're right. Let's release the cows and chickens into the wild where they can roam free with the predators and wildfires, the way nature intended.

or better yet, lets cage them up so they can die a tortuous death like McDonald's intended


:disgust:

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Jimmyjammer

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm sure the US doesn't test stuff on animals....

amish

And I'm sure lots of people I've met and will meet have done some things I'd consider horrible. However, until something is proven to me (ie. Shown to me) it's a bit fruitless to go assuming things.

When the US government comes out with it's new Ultra Raygun and shows a video of them blowing up a dog with it, well then I'll be angry at them too.

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

 

[skeletor]

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

Hmmmm....saying that you don't belive something until it's proven is 'stupid beyond belief'? Interesting.

 

[NeoV]

Hey Hamburgerpimp.....you are going to call CNN a bunch of PR crap ( Wag the Dog was just a movie sir), and quote whatreallyhappened.com as your backup? PLEASE!

I am thinking that the US doesn't really need to drum up any support for the war against Al-Q right now, not with a certain anniversary fast approaching...now if the video was Saddam's dog, then I might think something is fishy, but come on, get out of your RV, X-files are no more!

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: skeletor

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

Hmmmm....saying that you don't belive something until it's proven is 'stupid beyond belief'? Interesting.

No, saying that you don't believe in something before you have seen it is stupid beyond belief... why don't you try reading posts before you respond?

 

[skeletor]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: skeletor

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

Hmmmm....saying that you don't belive something until it's proven is 'stupid beyond belief'? Interesting.

No, saying that you don't believe in something before you have seen it is stupid beyond belief... why don't you try reading posts before you respond?

Oh dear. Jimmyjammer said that he tries not to believe things about people or things that people have done unless he has seen proof of it, he isn't talking about history etc, but about people he meets. I agree though saying "you don't believe in something before you have seen it is stupid beyond belief" , however, nobody has said that.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: skeletor

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: skeletor

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

Hmmmm....saying that you don't belive something until it's proven is 'stupid beyond belief'? Interesting.

No, saying that you don't believe in something before you have seen it is stupid beyond belief... why don't you try reading posts before you respond?

Oh dear. Jimmyjammer said that he tries not to believe things about people or things that people have done unless he has seen proof of it, he isn't talking about history etc, but about people he meets. I agree though saying "you don't believe in something before you have seen it is stupid beyond belief" , however, nobody has said that.

Read!

And I'm sure lots of people I've met and will meet have done some things I'd consider horrible. However, until something is proven to me (ie. Shown to me) it's a bit fruitless to go assuming things.

"Shown to me" is what he said... i don't know what you think about it, but to me it sounds like he has to see it, (ie. It has to be shown to him)...

So skip the oh dear crap and read before you respond...

 

[UDT89]

LOL

This is the funniest thread i ever read

 

[IGBT]

Amazing..destroy the WTC towers and kill thousands of people..kill hundres of people at the Pentagon..and then twist and turn your bent sensibilities to rationalize and apologies for the terrorist islamics so you can maintain your "blame America" political incorrectness. Then see a video indicating a few dogs were killed and that sets you off. What a bunch...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Jimmyjammer

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: Jimmyjammer


Well done for noticing in my original post where I said obviously 9/11 was much worse.......oh no wait.....you didn't.

hmmm yes i did. but if it was obviously worse, how are videos of a dog 'the last straw'? I was ready for annhilation after i saw the first picture of the WTC on fire.

Was I ready for annhilation of them after 9/11? === YES!

Was I ready for video of them being annihilated slowly perferably via chemical weapons after the dog video === YES!

Hence the last straw thing.

Ehhh... i don't think you get the point of "the last straw" you can't have two "last straws" you can only have one... and if it was 9/11 for you, it won't come back... hence, 9/11 WAS the "last straw"...

 

[gentobu]

It would have been worse if it was a tape of them killing kittens

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: skeletor

So have you actually seen the holocaust? Do you believe in it? That comment is stupid beyond belief...

Hmmmm....saying that you don't belive something until it's proven is 'stupid beyond belief'? Interesting.

Damn those lying veterans with their fake pictures of the nukes that were tested on both animals and soldiers! (Annoying background sound, turn down the speakers)

 

[sandorski]

We don't even know what gas they used to kill the dog. It could have been car exhaust. Perhaps it was a video made by someone else and they(Al Queda) had the video for reasons of investigating the efficacy of a gas weapon. It proves nothing. Until gas agents are found there's little reason to being overly alarmed.

 

[shiner]

Damn those lying veterans with their fake pictures of the nukes that were tested on both animals and soldiers!

Nobody is denying that was done. However like I said in another thread at the time those tests were carried out the effects of radiation on humans was not fully known. Not that it makes it right but it is easier to understand than testing gas when the effects are already known.

 

[Kenji4861]

Yea, that dog video pissed me off. But at the same time, I think the media is trying to get us mad at the Al Queda.

 

[shiner]

I think the media is trying to get us mad at the Al Queda.

You should already be mad at them.