Death row inmate nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

[Yo Ma Ma]

Here's the book list. Not exactly rave reviews, I hope the 24-page books have had a greater impact than the reviews imply.

I wonder what his 'international peace effort(s)' consist of? I would suspect this nomination was more of a political statement than anything else.

 

[DABANSHEE]

Anyway he probably only killed gangster rappers who were out to kill him anyway, its really no different than mafia bosses going out killing each other.

I know a cop who reckons nothing makes cops happier than when they hear about crooks falling out & killing each other - they rub their hands together & say 'well that means less work for us now'. Only thing is you hope they are good shots, so no innocent bystanders get blasted - maybe if ever the authorities hear that a gang war is going to comence, they should bring all the gangsters in for a bit marksmenship training 1st.

 

[fdiskboy]

Moonbeam, what part of my statement didn't you understand. Of course Nobel is dead, you idiot. Did you think I meant give Nobel his own damn prize posthumously?

You need to head back the therapist's couch and ask him to put you back together the RIGHT way.

 

[PCAddict]

At least it's not being awarded to that f*#@ing cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal. That was my fear when I first read a headline that said "Death Row Inmate Nominated For Nobel Prize" earlier yesterday.

Evidently this Williams guy seems to have redeemed himself in many ways and is doing some good things. He does deserve some recognition, but I think the Nobel Peace Prize is a bit much considering his history. It's not like he's Martin Luther King, who spent time in jail for civil disobedience. This guy is on death row for killing four people. There is nothing noble about that, no pun intended.

 

[AndrewR]

If he wins, then they should probably just include the award on the Viewers' Choice Awards. Talk about destroying the legitimacy of it completely.

Sure, Moonbeam, in your warped mind murder is the equivalent of the abuse of alcohol. You'd probably say the same for jaywalkers, too, right? GWB can stop drinking alcohol -- no amount of "stopping" will bring those four people back from the dead. Still on those drugs, I see.



<< Do you remember what type of people Christ hanged around with? >>


Not really, I wasn't around back then.


<< Christ is an unproven person, in a book that is unproven. >>


Actually, JenniZ, you're absolutely wrong. There are historical records (Roman, I believe) which account of a man named Jesus at that time. There are also numerous records which provide separate accounts of the events which transpired and further historical records which corroborate other events in the Bible. While many of the accounts in the Bible are exaggerated or allegorical, there is plenty of fact in the Bible. Nice try.

 

[Looney]

<< But to suggest that he is no longer a murderer does a greater disservice to the victims he left than my words do to him >>



It's a greater disservice to label somebody for life for actions they've done in the past. I got in fights when i was younger, does that mean i should be labelled violent all my life? I worked in a slaughter house, should i be labelled inhumane to animals all my life? Soliders that come back from war, should they be labelled killers all their life?

It's easy to label somebody when you're living in such comfortable surroundings. Not trying to make excuses for his actions, but i don't know the situation surrounding what caused him to become who he was. All i know about him is that he killed 4 people years ago. And what i know about him now is that he's helping kids and writing books.
And who did he kill? Was it innocents in a robbery, or was it in a gang fight?

Maybe we should put you through a microscope and see if you're life has been perfect and without wrongdoings. Bush must be a cokehead then, since he's done that in his past. Clinton must be a pothead too.

 

[Raspewtin]

<< It's easy to label somebody when you're living in such comfortable surroundings. >>




That's definitely true. But it's also easy for us to discount the suffering of the families of his victims b/c we are not part of those who suffered. Also do you think that if you did everything good that this guy did, you would get a Nobel Peace Prize? Of course not. The whole point is that he once was a killer and NOW he is a good person, not that he is just a good person today. That's why, IMO, him killing 4 people years ago has complete relevance to this award. I think at least one member of one of the victims' families should be part of the group that would decide if he gets this medal.

 

[azazyel]

The man has been in jail for 20 years! It was after 15 years that he wrote is first book! Has anybody out there every been in jail? I didn't think so. And yet after 15 years of living in hell he wrote a children's book. A frigen children's book and then he took it further and tried to help others. If I was in the joint that would be the last thing on my mind.



<< I pray that one day my apology will be accepted. I also pray that your suffering, caused by gang violence, will soon come to an end .....&quot; >>



About tookie

 

[Whitedog]

A nobel prize is not awarded for ones &quot;Life&quot; merrits, rather for the accomplishments of that led up to the award, which is the case.

Nobel prize is not biased to ones past, but focuses on the accomplishments towards the goal of what the prize represents.

Also, the people that vote for this aren't biased or judgemental either (unlike what appears the majority here are)

 

[BoberFett]

Whitedog

Precisely. And that's why it's questionable that he should receive a nomination for the award. Are other childrens authors and social workers being held up for a Nobel? No. So why should he receive special recognition for his past, whether it be to his advantage or disadvantage.

 

[Danceswithsquirrels]

I agree totally with Boberfett. Rising above adversity is admirable, but less so when the adversity was brought upon yourself by the killing of four people.

 

[Whitedog]

This is true. Perhaps there have been many people that's wrote children books all their lives and prevented THOUSANDS of kids from ending up in gangs as a result...

Interesting... But still sounds biased.

Then again, there could be something deeper involved. Think about this, what kind of affect would a childrens book have, that was written by mary poppins in her luxury house, on some dirty poor kid living in a harsh environment in the streets, verses a book written by someone who used to be in the shoes of that kid, who is now facing death due to the results of something he did that, that kid could face tomorrow.

I think maybe they are looking at the immediate affect (and long term ) his writings are having, and will have on children than those of someone who's worked their entire life at it.

Some people accomplish more in just a couple years, than others who labor a lifetime.

 

[cxim]

I think that in light of his many contributions, they should move his execution date up to decrease his mental suffering. I'll miss his humor, but then we all have to make sacrifices for the common good.


PS: please send me some of your old credit cards for my collection

cxim
PO box 102
Death Row, Fl 69666

 

[JenniZ]

Andrew:
But does it make a complete documentation of his actions and who he hung out with? Does it make notation that matches the bibles descriptions? Im sure its not that in detail. OBTW His name isnt really JESUS. In fact the translation isnt even Jesus. This &quot;Jesus&quot; person is still a LEGEND, who is crusty and old, who's actions cant be proved as FACTUAL. If there was complete, trustworthy documentation on this fellow, I would say he's ok to use as fact. But there is no fact that they are the same Jesus, or that he's the son of god, or the type of people he was with, or the actions he did. THAT is my point, I never said it was 100% proof he didnt exist, now did I?


.....NICE TRY.

BTW I'm not an Atheist, but I'm not a christian either. I am very picky about details so dont bend truths or legends to fit everyones little world, that was my point.

 

[Whitedog]

JenniZ,

This is NOT a thread about Jesus. STOP TROLLING!

 

[JenniZ]

Whitedog: Im sorry, I wasnt trolling. I just was making an analitical statement about bobby ribs, unfactual statement. Andrew in turn made it otherwise. I wont sit still while someone discredits what I was discrediting. Alrighty honey?

However for future reference, I would like to state that I don't want to discuss the issue further with andrew or bobby ribs.

 

[Preyhunter]

C'mon now, who really cares? Give the award to him or don't give it to him. Fact is, this guy is on death row for murder and he still owes his debt to society. Give him the award, flip the switch, and put the award in the casket with him. All of his books and &quot;good deeds&quot; haven't made up for what he has done in his past. There's no way to make up for it, so do what they want with the award. He still had to fulfill his obligation to the rest of us whether you want him to be obigated to you in that way or not. It is the law of the land where he chose to murder.

 

[Whitedog]

Well JenniZ hon, people make unfactual <--(quoting you..hehe) statements all the time in this forum. No need to attack them for it.

Based on what you were commenting about, which you had no grounds to attack him with because I don't see anywhere where he was stating &quot;This is a Fact!&quot; or anything, he simply just made a statement. I would venture to guess that if his comments were about Alexander the Great you wouldn't even shake a stick at him for it. Eh, he was several hundred years before Jesus was, and there wasn't anymore &quot;written&quot; about him than Jesus. Do you consider Alexander the Great a legend, Myth?

If your going to be &quot;anti-Jesus&quot;, at least save it for the &quot;Jesus&quot; threads and leave them out of these... Just becuase someone might mention Him doesn't make it an open playing field to start bashing.

 

[JenniZ]

Whitedoggie: Check my post in one of the Jesus threads. Im one of the last people who is going to be &quot;Anti-Jesus&quot;. I made the comment because it was out of place is all. Saying who this Jesus person (or Alexander for that matter) &quot;hung out with&quot;, has no relevence at all to the point of this thread. So I felt free to comment on it.

Thank-you drive through.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Death row inmate nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

Is nothing sacred anymore??