Death by OverClocking ?

[arciced]

SWIM IS HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS SUX I CAN'T GET SUPER SONIC SPEEDS ANYMORE =[ THANKS FOR THE FISH!

 

[swtethan]

too long, no read need cliffs

 

[CTho9305]

You write way too much. At the very least, leave a blank line between paragraphs!

Have you tried blowing the dust out of your heatsink? Reapply the thermal paste? Clean the dust from your case fans?

I for some reason think though its this 45nm Brisban CPU, I happen to think that with all the problems I?ve herd AMD has had with getting newer generation proccessors out using 45nm I think I got screwed going with AMD for 45nm technology.

Brisbanes are 65nm, not 45nm. Nobody is shipping 45nm CPUs yet. As far as I know, AMD's 65nm parts are as reliable as anything else...

Still, How can something so dramatic happen as to where I can no longer over clock but run fine at closer to stock speeds, usually if a CPU dies it just dies..

Not true. Many of the wear-out mechanisms that limit performance/lifetime in modern processors are not "works fine or dead" effects: negative bias temperature instability (NBTI) and hot-carrier injection / impact ionization slow down transistors over time. These effects are unlikely to just kill a part, but they slow down all CPUs over time, so manufacturers have to add margin (when the CPU is new, it might pass manufacturer's tests at, say, 2 GHz, but it may be sold as a 1.8 GHz part if the transistors are going to slow down by 10% over the expected lifetime). I can think of a couple mechanisms that would cause step-function drops, but I don't feel like explaining them now.

I know this was written trashy, SWIM is very high now in spite of all of this SWIM abused more so than usual from various substances.

I have no idea what this sentence means, but I'll take a guess and suggest that you not mess with hardware or post in forums when you're stoned.

 

[Thund3rb1rd]

Originally posted by: swtethan
too long, no read need cliffs

+1

Originally posted by: CTho9305
... suggest that you not mess with hardware or post in forums when you're stoned.

+1

 

[arciced]

I know this was written trashy, SWIM is very high now in spite of all of this SWIM abused more so than usual from various substances.

I have no idea what this sentence means, but I'll take a guess and suggest that you not mess with hardware or post in forums when you're stoned.[/quote]

swim = some one who isn't mean. make any more sense?

I'm not making anyone read this, so don't deny my rights to free speech - I'm not breaking any rules am I?

Yes, its 65nm, my bad.

You want cliff notes? I over clocked a 1.9ghz cpu to 2.86ghz. It worked fine for over 1 month. I get BSoD during a time an application was using dual cores for over a period of 3 hours. I watched the Temp the entire time, it never went over 58c. After BSoD I am no longer able to overclock to more than 1.21ghz. After BSoD My Sound Blaster X-Fi card will no longer work without BSoD -> The card works fine in another computer i just put it in.

It has never over heated from my understanding of temperature threasholds and my constant eye of the temperature..

P.S. SWIM is still high.

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: arciced
As my profile states, I've had this rig of mine running at a good 1.87ghz for about a month. Yesterday, I was doing a proccessor intensive file encryption on my raid system which was maxing out both cores. After several hours it was 50% complete and then BOOM BSoD. Then the computer would not turn back on until I turned the power switch in the the back turning it off, then flipping it on and pressing the on button 3 times. This bios resets after 3 unsuccessful POST reboots.
Ok, Bios resets, now at 1.9ghz stock. Windows boots up but then get a APX_index crash. This occurred until I removed my soundblaster X-fi Xtrememusic sound card. I removed the card, removed all its drivers. Reinserted card, while installing new drivers BOOM, apx BSOD. So I removed the card, decided to use the ACL853 on board for now..
Went back into bios, overclocked again to 2.87ghz, computer would not turn on. Reset bios, Overclocked to 2.7ghz, but no POST. Reset bios, Overclocked to 2.5ghz NO POST! Then tried 2.4ghz, no post again. Went down to 2.2ghz, got post, ran fine at 2.2ghz till reboot then no post. Now I?m at 2.1 ghz, resets fine ? better than 1.9ghz but lost a noticeable 733mhz and now games have about 7 less fps on average, which is a breaking point for some of the games which ran at an unplayable 26fps stock speeds and at a satisfactory 34fps at 2.87ghz. another big hit is Quickpar - used to repair rar sets at 1150mb/sec (it?s only a one core threaded app ) now it barely hits 780mb/s while stock barely hits 700mb/s. We are talking of a difference between a couple minutes to over five minutes when dealing with DVD and BlueRay rar sets. Maybe if the few applications I use heavily would have been updated to use Dual Cores I wouldn?t have a desire to overclock.
Anyways, When the first BSoD occurred during a heavily CPU dual core intensive encryption algorithm was running I had the Nvidia Stats opened which showed my CPU temp never went higher than 58c and the voltage was around 1.33v and I never needed to step up the voltage manually for over clocking either.
This mobo/cpu build is little over a month old. I?ve been using 2.87ghz that entire time.. There wasa few occasions when I had the computer off for over a day and I went to turn it back on Bios would drop the ocverclocking settings and go back to default, I neverunderstood why it did that but I didn?t have a problem overclocking and leaving the machine on for an entire week at that 2.87ghz speed. I played CPU I ran two Prime95 for an entire day right after clocking to 2.87ghz and no errors were indicated. Infact There wasn?t any errors until 2.94ghz and I dropped 6mhz just to be extra safe.
Does anyone have a clue as to what happened. Why is my SoundBlaster card effective, I can?t use it at all now. When the card isn?t in the coputer I stil lcan?t overclock to over 2.11ghz without problems, and can?t get a post when over 2.2 ghz. Thanks for any ideas, I don?t believe 58c was too hot since I once sold my old athlon xp 2800+ system to someone which runs at 65c all the time I had it and they?ve had it for 3 years so that?s like 5 years old now and it?s still fine. I for some reason think though its this 45nm Brisban CPU, I happen to think that with all the problems I?ve herd AMD has had with getting newer generation proccessors out using 45nm I think I got screwed going with AMD for 45nm technology. Still, How can something so dramatic happen as to where I can no longer over clock but run fine at closer to stock speeds, usually if a CPU dies it just dies.. Then theres the issue with the sound card which works perfectly fine in another computer.. If any of you experts read all of this I would appreciate any feedback. I also tried a new 380 watt raidmax power supply, currently there?s a 550 watt turbo link. I bought that psu when I built the previous rig, it powered a athlon x2 3800+ overclocked to 2.61ghz for 3 months with no problem then I got this other build in my sig because my friend wanted my 2.61ghz on asus sli premium and payed more for it than the one in my sig and I got this new build because the reviews in neweg said people were getting 2.95ghz. btw, before you bash me for buying turbolink, I bought it on neweg because it was rated #1 out of ALL OTHER psu?s. It got best eggs for the most highest number of reviews. I had a previous turbolink 420watt that ran a athlon xp 3200+ for 1.5 years, I sold that psu to a customer an it burned out 6 months later ? I just stuck in some cheap raidmax and its as good as new. I was told recently by other forums that turbolinks are the worst, I would of never bought this if I knew and it is possible it is responsible for the damage although I don?t believe so.
Anyways, I was at first going under the theory that AMD?s 45nm cores are not as durable for overclocking and some how damaged mine until soon after the BSoD occurred until I removed my sound card and now I can not install that x-fi card without a APX bsod which, occording to google, means my hard drive is corrupted ? it stands for some sort of FAT error but I doubt that too unless the overclocking bsod corrupted that NTFS on the raid-0 system but why does everything else work fine? I also happen to be very pleased with this on board ACL853, the last time I tried it, it did work fine but I heard this persistant static and you could hear the hdd run and the mouse move like previous on board audios but this time however, now theres no static at all. I was watching a movie and I couldn?t tell the difference in quality from this acl853 vs the x-fi. I haven?t tried any games, I?m sure I will lose a significant amount of FPS by using onboard audio like I did when I used the acl version on the previous a8n-sli premium asus board, I?m saying when I put in that X-fi card on that asus board my games gained like 20FPS.
So basically, as long as I use onboard audio and do not clock any higher than 2.11ghz I?m fine, But like I said I have yet to install any games. I haven?t played games since I put in vista ultimate just because I?ve lost interest, not because vista made them play worse I don?t know. I?m going tell you guys how I?m over clocking so maybe I am the one doing something wrong and messed up the board or rather I am simply over clocking wrong this time around because my memory sucks and there might not be nothing wrong at all besides the occasional clock settings that get lost every other week in bios like previously.
HT freq = 600mhz
FSB Mul = 9.5x
MEM Sp = 677mhz -> tried 533mhz
CPU Fre = 305

This is how I overclocked origionally, I believe, I got 2.87ghz, Leaving vcore to auto 1.3v. I could even get a Prime95 stable speed of 3.05GHZ with a vcore of 1.45v but the temp would go from 58c underload to 70c+ and idle temp would be like 56c. Now even with a CPU Frequency of 250 it will crash. I know this was written trashy, SWIM is very high now in spite of all of this SWIM abused more so than usual from various substances.

i think my head just exploded!

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: arciced
AMD Athlon XP X2 3600+ Brisban 45nm

WTF? Athlon XP are/were Socket A (aka Socket 462).

As for 45nm technology, where can I get these CPUs? Need CPU-z screenshots.