WelshBloke
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Man, I dont know. That cheese pizza looks hella controversial to me!man, if anyone would just look at their menu's....they wouldn't have anything else to say.
Man, I dont know. That cheese pizza looks hella controversial to me!man, if anyone would just look at their menu's....they wouldn't have anything else to say.
Well, that's the thing, they're not. You are oddly very, VERY specifically fixated on the people doing the slaughtering, and ignoring the fact that once it's been slaughtered, anyone can do the processing.i get it, I know kids have other options. My point is why are govt funds used for a one religion only jobs program. I don't understand why it is so hard for people to get. You keep talking like I dont get that other kids have other options. I posted the menu on my first post. You think I didn't go through what options there are
And so what?? so that means they can initiate a jobs program for one group
Most of the other school groups are doing the same and none of the muslim kids are exploding . let the school use its own funds to buy from Halal suppliers. if it is indeed so cost efficient why dont the school district use their funds, why do they need USDA funds?
I could be but you aren't really trying to understand this issue at all, you're just riding that outrage train.
You have not shown a disparate outcome of the school district's action on employment opportunities for non-Muslim butchers.And so what?? so that means they can initiate a jobs program for one group
Most of the other school groups are doing the same and none of the muslim kids are exploding . let the school use its own funds to buy from Halal suppliers. if it is indeed so cost efficient why dont the school district use their funds, why do they need USDA funds?
So you want the schools to spend more than they need to, massively complicate their administrative and procurement systems, build a couple of new kitchens just so they can have separate halal, kosher and secular cheese pizzas that are identical and beef tacos that only differ in where they bought the mince from?And so what?? so that means they can initiate a jobs program for one group
Most of the other school groups are doing the same and none of the muslim kids are exploding . let the school use its own funds to buy from Halal suppliers. if it is indeed so cost efficient why dont the school district use their funds, why do they need USDA funds?
Well, that's the thing, they're not. You are oddly very, VERY specifically fixated on the people doing the slaughtering, and ignoring the fact that once it's been slaughtered, anyone can do the processing.
It isn't just growing one group, its feeding all of them.WB, sorry if you feel that way. Maybe I am not very clear and I apologize if you feel like I am outraged. I am actually not. Since my first post, I have been against govt funds for shariah compliant meat.
I will not complain if the school is funding this 100%. The problem I have is the use of federal funds to subsidize and grow just one religious group.
So you want the schools to spend more than they need to, massively complicate their administrative and procurement systems, build a couple of new kitchens just so they can have separate halal, kosher and secular cheese pizzas that are identical and beef tacos that only differ in where they bought the mince from?
Like, if only Mormons were allowed to push the "compile" button, or only atheists could load ladders onto the truck? That's the level of detail you're fussing about.So you must be ok with a specific jobs, let's say software jobs at a federal level only going to Mormons.
or how about in your county, utilities work can only be done by Atheists.
I guess you must be ok with it.
So you're arguing for the worst outcome for the schools and the taxpayers and the students?Yes if they are using federal funds.
Respectable response.I don’t support kids having to recite the pledge, some schools no longer recite it and I would support a judicial decision forbidding the practice.
I would not support any school administrator forcing kids to recite the pledge.
TBH this thread has been pretty respectful all round!Respectable response.
Cheese pizza with carrot sticks and apple slices are the works of Satan!Man, I dont know. That cheese pizza looks hella controversial to me!
It isn't just growing one group, its feeding all of them.
I just don't understand why you would want to needlessly complicate things, inconvenience everyone and make everything more expensive for no real positive reason.WB, I get it. I seem like a total fuckhead trying to starve the arab kids, but again that's not my intent at all. if the school wants to use the funds generated and part of their capex, then they can go ahead and buy whatever food they want. In this case, they are now getting matching funds from the USDA and going the halal route.
I have been against it since the beginning. It may seem to be a trivial issue to most of you, but I am irked by this usage of federal funds for just acquiescing just one group.
Those are all fine links from StormFront you have there but in reality it is fine with Kosher or anything done by the correct procedure by people of the book for it to be Halal. I have a feeling you don't understand the subject, all Halal means is "permissive" and the opposite is Haram which means "forbidden".
You don't need all of that for meat to be permissible to eat (Halal).
I think this is just a case of your ignorance coupled with an outrage that you really want to stick to.
Students will see dramatic differences in this year’s menu, starting with more made from scratch meals, promised Joshua Bain, SFE senior general manager of food service.
“The district has been doing a lot of heat-and-eat because it was easy,” Bain said. Now, everything will be handmade, down to the sandwiches.
All the meat served in Dearborn will now be halal. Before some schools offered all halal, while others had a mix, which contributed to confusion about which menu was being served at which school.
Parents of picky eaters should not panic – the menu still includes kid favorites like macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets. Children will also have a chance to sample new things.
Last school year, Dearborn Public Schools began offering free lunch and breakfast to all kindergarten through 12th grade students across the district. The meals were provided through a special community qualification program offered through the U.S.D.A. school lunch program. Dearborn served 2,050,258 school lunches last school year, up from 1.8 million the previous year. Breakfasts increased to 684,049, up from 646,901 the previous year.
Seriously though. Free breakfast and lunch, all handmade in school, increased uptake... How can any of that be seen as bad? That's the sort of thing to be emulated everywhere!From the link:
Seriously though. Free breakfast and lunch, all handmade in school, increased uptake... How can any of that be seen as bad? That's the sort of thing to be emulated everywhere!
From the link:
dearbornschools.org

FM from the same link
Food Services | Dearborn Public Schools
dearbornschools.org
The school gets funds from USDA and here we have the school website saying exactly opposite of what they are doing.. i am laughing.
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The school probably isn't running the abattoir or employing the slaughtermen.FM from the same link
Food Services | Dearborn Public Schools
dearbornschools.org
The school gets funds from USDA and here we have the school website saying exactly opposite of what they are doing.. i am laughing.
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