Dean was riding high till the Primaries started. WHAT HAPPENED?

JEDI

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How did Dean fall from being the front runner to dropping off the radar just a couple of days before the 1st primary???
 

zephyrprime

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Yeah, it seems like dean was only the front runner becuase news places said he was. And the reason why they thought so was simply because he had the most money. And the reason he had the most money was because he had the best website and was able to appeal to zealots who were the most involved. That's how it seems to me. Were there any polls actually done before the primaries?
 

DealMonkey

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I think the primaries revealed that most people felt Dean was unelectable (too angry, too extremist) and that Kerry had a better chance at beating Bush.
 

Psorak

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He looks like a psychopath. I'm serious. I wouldn't vote for him based on that trait alone.
 

UltraQuiet

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Howard Dean - The Candidate made for the internet. (you know like the old saying "he's got a face for radio")
 

UltraQuiet

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Howard Dean - The Candidate made for the internet. (you know like the old saying "he's got a face for radio")
 

Moonbeam

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People are emotionally dead because they are afraid of feeling. Amybody who feels is terrifying. They might make us feel too. No no no. I died long ago and don't want to awaken.
 

KK

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The news media did what they like to do, make someone up to be the talk of the town and then tear him down. I mean that little Dean Scream as they call it, wasn't anything that should have blown that far out of proportion. The media is very biased and I think that when Dean had a poor showing, it made the news outlets look like idiots, which they are.

KK
 

DanJ

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Say what you will about Dean but he reinvigerated the party and is very much a reason for these huge primary turnouts (on top of the fact that Bush is a disaster).
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Say what you will about Dean but he reinvigerated the party and is very much a reason for these huge primary turnouts (on top of the fact that Bush is a disaster).

Was the turn out big because the Dem voters wanted to make sure that this wanker didn't get the nomination?
 

CaptnKirk

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His early 'Internet Presence' outweighed his true party appeal.

Rising Star, Shooting Star, Falling Star. . . .
He streached his 15 Minutes of Fame beyound it acceptable envelope.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DanJ
Say what you will about Dean but he reinvigerated the party and is very much a reason for these huge primary turnouts (on top of the fact that Bush is a disaster).
Was the turn out big because the Dem voters wanted to make sure that this wanker didn't get the nomination?
He helped his fellow Dem nominees come out and be strong about the issues. Dean was so huge because he looked like had a spine at the beginning; the media loved him for being so strong. He made the party see that they couldn't win by being Bush lite, to reinvigerate voters they had to fight.

My thoughts at least.

Here's a good editorial that says much the same:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/29/column.shields.opinion.dean/index.html
 

UltraQuiet

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the media loved him for being so strong

The media could care less whether he was "strong" or not. He got coverage because he made good sound bites, in a "look what this idiot said today that he is going to have to retract tommorow" kind of way. Nothing more and probably a lot less. I saw Dean on Meet the Press last June and heard him say that he was going to "raise taxes back to Clinton era levels", I predicted then , in writing on another msg board (Ars), that he was unelectable. That may not have been an issue with all the little college kiddies that howie got his support from to begin with but rest assured that it resonated with the "real" democratic party and it certainly would have been a major issue if he had somehow garnered the nomination. His other big issue, balancing the budget, has also turned into a monumental joke because evidently he can't even manage a campaign budget let alone the gov't budget of the largest economy in the world. Dean may have been able to raise the level of debate monmentarily in the Demotardic party but now that everyone realizes that the ranting is getting them nowhere it is back to business as usual. Now it's just a contest to see who the Clintons are offering up for slaughter so Hillary can run in '08.
 

Leon

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Howard "Send me more money and watch it become history" Dean is a dot com of politics, and he campaign will be remebered for years as a biggest waste of $$ ever.

His chances would be much higher if he'd appealed to moderates. Instead, he chose to concentrate on fringe of the DP, and people voted accordingly.

Leon

 

Passions

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Ill tell you what happened, one word:


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: BOBBY RIBS
Ill tell you what happened, one word:


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

my thoughts exactly.