Dealership wants me to resign contract

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Its a couple days since purchase of a f150. They said that there was another 1000 rebate they had to list on the contract. They said it was listed wrong as dealer discount. Ever heard of this? I told them I'd redo it for a discount on the truck but otherwise I'm happy with the deal. They said they wouldn't discount the truck anymore. I'm thinking they found another 1000 rebate or since its the beginning of the month ford is offering another 1000 off they want to pocket. The sales manager said it was my right to deny signing a new one and the contract is still valid. Just annoys me they would bother me with this garbage. Your thoughts on this?

 

[mvbighead]

I'd be inclined to agree with you. If you're happy with your deal, leave it. If it doesn't benefit you in any way, I just don't see the point other than them trying to get something in there that they forgot. Rest assured, if you had accidentally paid more than they intended, they wouldn't be reaching out to you.

 

[gorcorps]

Unless you're getting more money off yourself, no reason to bother. I agree that it sounds like they have another rebate they can now pass onto Ford instead of the dealership, so they were trying to get that $1k back themselves without changing your end price. If they're not giving you any more of a discount (I'd offer to split the difference of another $500 off at least) then there's no reason for you to do it.

 

[dainthomas]

Seems weird they wouldn't offer to give you a percentage of it at least for your time.

 

[JulesMaximus]

If there is no benefit to you I say fuck them. Tell them to pound sand.

 

[nk215]

I would stop by and resign the contract. Not every nice action needs $$ as reward.

I am fortunate enough to know two honest dealers. The first one declined a $200 cash tip after staying almost 2 hrs after normal hours waiting for me to pick up my vehicle (I was stuck in traffic). The second one asked me to cut them a newer check with a lower amount because they over estimated the fees of for my vehicle.

There are honest and nice people out there. Just be one once in a while.

 

[SearchMaster]

My BIL had a similar experience on an F-150 - weird. He has money galore and bought a fully loaded Platinum which was like $70K and traded in his Denali on it. They called him back a few days later and said they had made a mistake and the price should have been $2K more and he needed to come in and sign papers, he told them to pound sand. They drove his Denali back to him, completely detailed and perfect and picked up the F-150 which was not clean at all. I do wonder if they ended up eating more than $2K on the deal since the truck went from a few dozen miles to several hundred miles though it could still be sold as new since it wasn't titled.

 

[Midwayman]

If they aren't offering you anything, F em. Best outcome is it costs you time. Worst outcome is they screwed up something in the contract and are hoping to slip a change in that you won't notice. If you do resign make sure you triple check all the numbers. I've heard a fair number of times about dealers revising loan numbers, etc after the fact.

 

[jlee]

My BIL had a similar experience on an F-150 - weird. He has money galore and bought a fully loaded Platinum which was like $70K and traded in his Denali on it. They called him back a few days later and said they had made a mistake and the price should have been $2K more and he needed to come in and sign papers, he told them to pound sand. They drove his Denali back to him, completely detailed and perfect and picked up the F-150 which was not clean at all. I do wonder if they ended up eating more than $2K on the deal since the truck went from a few dozen miles to several hundred miles though it could still be sold as new since it wasn't titled.

How is that remotely legal?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I would stop by and resign the contract. Not every nice action needs $$ as reward.

I am fortunate enough to know two honest dealers. The first one declined a $200 cash tip after staying almost 2 hrs after normal hours waiting for me to pick up my vehicle (I was stuck in traffic). The second one asked me to cut them a newer check with a lower amount because they over estimated the fees of for my vehicle.

There are honest and nice people out there. Just be one once in a while.

If this was benenfiting an individual. Sure. I'd do it. This is putting more money into some nameless corporation. I have no problem doing nice things for people most of the time and don't expect anything in return.

 

[Art&Science]

How is that remotely legal?

There are clauses in all these contracts for errors.... and they are enforceable.

What the poster didn't say (but was implied) is that his BIL does not agree to the higher price, and simply got out of the deal (got his truck back).

 

[JulesMaximus]

If this was benenfiting an individual. Sure. I'd do it. This is putting more money into some nameless corporation. I have no problem doing nice things for people most of the time and don't expect anything in return.

Same here. I'm not interested in wasting my time because some clerk fucked up some paperwork. It also opens the door for more shenanigans on their part since they have to redo all the paperwork.

 

[Engineer]

I'd be inclined to agree with you. If you're happy with your deal, leave it. If it doesn't benefit you in any way, I just don't see the point other than them trying to get something in there that they forgot. Rest assured, if you had accidentally paid more than they intended, they wouldn't be reaching out to you.

I agree with this. I bought a car in 2008 that had a new incentive pop up ($1000) the very next day. The dealer nor GM would budge a bit on it (not that they had to).

 

[SearchMaster]

There are clauses in all these contracts for errors.... and they are enforceable.

What the poster didn't say (but was implied) is that his BIL does not agree to the higher price, and simply got out of the deal (got his truck back).

Correct, the deal was basically just "undone". Both sides started threatening lawsuits and then mutually agreed to just rescind the contract but my BIL was not going to drive down to get it done so they drove up to swap trucks. And like I said, I'm sure the dealership had the legal right to try to correct the clerical error but they probably ended up eating more than the clerical error on the overall deal.

 

[mvbighead]

If this was benenfiting an individual. Sure. I'd do it. This is putting more money into some nameless corporation. I have no problem doing nice things for people most of the time and don't expect anything in return.

This for sure.

But beyond that, if there is no benefit to the consumer, what is the point of re-signing paperwork. As has already been discussed in this thread, you never know when they might try to slip something in to take advantage of you on something. When you go through the sales process, you are likely to take your time. If you are just coming in to re-sign paperwork, perhaps you'll just sign so as to get on your way. Who knows what kind of stuff happens when such a request pops up.

 

[Topweasel]

Correct, the deal was basically just "undone". Both sides started threatening lawsuits and then mutually agreed to just rescind the contract but my BIL was not going to drive down to get it done so they drove up to swap trucks. And like I said, I'm sure the dealership had the legal right to try to correct the clerical error but they probably ended up eating more than the clerical error on the overall deal.

Honestly that's silly for a dealership to push it that far. At some point someone on their end snapped and decided it was some kind of principal thing. Because it makes no sense to go to that trouble to reabsorb the car with so many miles a just because you didn't want to resign at 2k higher. While I understand a business has to stay profitable and that 2k probably depending on his original negotiation most if not all plus some of the margin. But like you said now they basically have to sell it like a demo because who is going to pay retail for a car with a couple thousand miles on it when there is probably an exact duplicate on the lot with 23.

 

[twinrider1]

I'd sign it, for $500.

 

[IronWing]

If he stands pat, the manufacturer keeps the incentive. If he re-signs, the dealer gets the incentive. The manufacturer built the truck. The dealer did what, washed it?

 

[Greenman]

Same thing happened to me years ago. Dealer said there was a mistake in the contract and that I needed to sign a new one. The new contract was for a higher price and a higher interest rate on the loan, those were the "mistakes". I politely refused, told them they couldn't change the terms of the contract after the sale. I drove away in my new car without giving them an extra cent.

 

[gorcorps]

Same thing happened to me years ago. Dealer said there was a mistake in the contract and that I needed to sign a new one. The new contract was for a higher price and a higher interest rate on the loan, those were the "mistakes". I politely refused, told them they couldn't change the terms of the contract after the sale. I drove away in my new car without giving them an extra cent.

How this happens baffles me. I've been through a couple car sales now, and there's always a lot of discussions happening with managers and finance to figure out if they can allow a deal or not. I have to imagine these dealerships that screw up are not the norm, and simply aren't doing the legwork of checking if the deal is good before agreeing to it.

 

[Art&Science]

Honestly that's silly for a dealership to push it that far. At some point someone on their end snapped and decided it was some kind of principal thing. Because it makes no sense to go to that trouble to reabsorb the car with so many miles a just because you didn't want to resign at 2k higher. While I understand a business has to stay profitable and that 2k probably depending on his original negotiation most if not all plus some of the margin. But like you said now they basically have to sell it like a demo because who is going to pay retail for a car with a couple thousand miles on it when there is probably an exact duplicate on the lot with 23.

Well I agree it's silly BUT you have to understand, the average person working in sales or finance at a dealership is basically a fucking moron. A smart business person wants to maintain that relationship with the customer - but remember, the dealership doesn't usually have those (smart people).

 

[vi edit]

I bought a brand new Mazda 3 when they were released in '04. Was interested in doing a trade in but they low balled me so bad I just sold the old car myself. I was happy with the deal I got given the "hotness" of the new 3's at the time. Got a call a few days later from the dealership that the sales guy was new and he gave me the wrong price since he thought I was trading in a car. They said I underpaid by $1000.

Basically told the dealership not my problem. *CLICK*.

 

[Greenman]

How this happens baffles me. I've been through a couple car sales now, and there's always a lot of discussions happening with managers and finance to figure out if they can allow a deal or not. I have to imagine these dealerships that screw up are not the norm, and simply aren't doing the legwork of checking if the deal is good before agreeing to it.

In my case I'm reasonably sure it was planed by the dealer. When the salesmen asked the standard "what will it take to send you home in this car" question, I answered very precisely, and knew the terms I asked for couldn't be met. They met my terms. Then tried to change them 3 days later.

 

[jdoggg12]

OP, if I were you, contact them back and plainly ask what incentive you have for re-signing the paperwork. If they say nothing, politely tell them to never contact you again for anything except recall notices. You never know, they might realize the ridiculousness of what they're asking if you just ask them why they would do it if they were in your shoes and offer you a free maintenance package or a couple free oil changes.

No need to be a jerk about these things, sometimes people just don't understand how stupid a request is until it's reflected back at them in a different light.

 

[Midwayman]

How this happens baffles me. I've been through a couple car sales now, and there's always a lot of discussions happening with managers and finance to figure out if they can allow a deal or not. I have to imagine these dealerships that screw up are not the norm, and simply aren't doing the legwork of checking if the deal is good before agreeing to it.

I think what goes on is they target people who think they are at risk of not getting a car. They get them to commit to a deal and then called them up and say there was a mistake and imply that they'll take back the car if they don't resign. These people often don't know their rights and now are attached to the car so they go in and resign a worse deal not knowing they could tell them to pound sand.