Dealership Doesn't like the deal it makes, so it takes the car back!

[Reckoner]

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Another good thread


The sad thing is the guy who owns this stealership was voted Dealer of the Year last year!


1) Guy buys car from dealership for trade-in + $8,000 cash
2) Dealership calls and tells them they made a mistake at selling the car at that price, and they want the car back
3) Customer tells them to fvck off
4) Customer wakes up next morning to find the car gone from his home

 

[Raduque]

Wouldn't that be Breach of Contract? Unless it's somewhere in the fine print the Stealership (hah!) can do that, but I doubt it.

 

[everman]

If he still has the keys, and saw the car at the dealership, then drive off with it?
What are they going to do, call the cops?

the DA says this is a civil case, not a criminal case. He says Kieselhorst is free to take the dealer to court -- something he's now seriously considering.

WTF they stole his truck!

 

[Greenman]

I don't see why the new owner doesn't report the truck as stolen.

Edit: Something like this happened to me, the dealer called after a few days and wanted me to sign new loan docs at a higher rate than we agreed to, I said no. They ate the cost.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: Greenman
I don't see why the new owner doesn't report the truck as stolen.

The police wanted to press charges, but the prosecutor said the guy has to take them to Civil Court.

 

[SpanishFry]

so the BBB is worthless?

 

[Nebor]

I thought you had 3 days or so to return a car if you change your mind?

 

[Gunslinger08]

It's stories like these that make me want to beat the fvck out of people. I seriously wish something like the second story (person blocked in by sales people and a truck) would happen to me. There would be a lot of ass kicking going on.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Greenman
I don't see why the new owner doesn't report the truck as stolen.

The police wanted to press charges, but the prosecutor said the guy has to take them to Civil Court.

thats BS they should arrest them and take the truck back. he paid for it and they signed the papers.

hopefuly he sues the crap out of them. but him signing away his rights is going to hurt. bu ti do not think you can sign away rights in a situation such as this.

 

[BigToque]

That's totally f***ed up...

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Greenman
I don't see why the new owner doesn't report the truck as stolen.

The police wanted to press charges, but the prosecutor said the guy has to take them to Civil Court.

thats BS they should arrest them and take the truck back. he paid for it and they signed the papers.

hopefuly he sues the crap out of them. but him signing away his rights is going to hurt. bu ti do not think you can sign away rights in a situation such as this.

This is the USA! The person with the most money automatically wins.

 

[SuperSix]

Well.. I was considering a used car at a Bill Heard near Tampa (Plant City), I won't be going there now.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: SuperSix
Well.. I was considering a used car at a Bill Heard near Tampa (Plant City), I won't be going there now.

That's all that's really needed. Picket the business, boycott it, get national publicity that destroys them utterly. They'll change their practices or they'll go bankrupt and starve to death. Either way, the good guys win.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: everman
If he still has the keys, and saw the car at the dealership, then drive off with it?
What are they going to do, call the cops?

the DA says this is a civil case, not a criminal case. He says Kieselhorst is free to take the dealer to court -- something he's now seriously considering.

WTF they stole his truck!

Its OK for the consumer to be ripped off on the sticker, the trade in, the financing, etc., but not the dealer. Bastards.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
This is the USA! The person with the most money automatically wins.

Yep, our justice system is a joke.

See link.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Greenman
I don't see why the new owner doesn't report the truck as stolen.

The police wanted to press charges, but the prosecutor said the guy has to take them to Civil Court.

thats BS they should arrest them and take the truck back. he paid for it and they signed the papers.

hopefuly he sues the crap out of them. but him signing away his rights is going to hurt. bu ti do not think you can sign away rights in a situation such as this.

This is the USA! The person with the most money automatically wins.

sadly i have to agree. when the RIAA/MPAA can sue with no proof. When a man steals millions from the retirement fund and gets away with a few years.

yeah its sickening.
its no longer of the people for the people. its of the people for the business.

 

[mugs]

There has to be more to this story...

 

[TraumaRN]

Yea I remember worrying when I bought my new used back in June, we so hammered that dealership on price but since my mom is known locally she got them to stay low. Car was worth around 9,500 according to KBB but drove away after tax/title/plate for 7000.....instead of stealing my car they kept withholding my real license plate until we threatened to sue...

 

[Farbio]

this dealership is known as being extremely shady in the central florida area - there have been multiple stories about them refusing to give back customers keys after assesing the value of their trade, writing up phony deals and processing them thru credit corps and multiple bait & switch deals
if nothing else, please people on AT, do not use this dealership for anything!

 

[compuwiz1]

There are only a couple different ways the dealership could repo the vehicle, and those would be, if the guys' check bounced, or he really financed it, and they could not get him approved. A pricing mistake is not one of them. Something doesn't add up here. No dealership in their right mind would risk a multimillion dollar business license over a simple pricing error.

Other than the above couple reasons, if they accepted the trade in, and his cash, and contracted with him, they are out, even if they did not mean to sell it so cheaply. Not knowing the laws in the state he resides in, I don't know what clauses the sale contract contains. If it has a price error clause, then it could be legit, but that's doubtful.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: waggy
sadly i have to agree. when the RIAA/MPAA can sue with no proof. When a man steals millions from the retirement fund and gets away with a few years.

yeah its sickening.
its no longer of the people for the people. its of the people for the business.

anyone can sue with no proof. that is the point of court-ordered discovery. you're not going to have the evidence that they bad guy did something wrong when you file 99% of law suits. and that rule helps the little guy more than anything else.


anyway, it's the arbitration clause that's a problem.

that woman should be suing for intentional infliction of emotional distress. i'd say that blocking her from getting into her truck where her 2 year old is strapped into a car seat in 97 degree weather is pretty extreme and outrageous

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Yea I remember worrying when I bought my new used back in June, we so hammered that dealership on price but since my mom is known locally she got them to stay low. Car was worth around 9,500 according to KBB but drove away after tax/title/plate for 7000.....instead of stealing my car they kept withholding my real license plate until we threatened to sue...

These tactics make my blood boil. I fscking hate car dealers.

 

[TG2]

Was it registered? I would think the title would come to his house, with no liens on it, after the DMV is done with it

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: TG2
Was it registered? I would think the title would come to his house, with no liens on it, after the DMV is done with it

DMV is usually not done right away, but a couple to three weeks later, to insure adequate time for a personal check to clear the bank.

 

[waggy]

suprised nobody has got the DA's email. i been looking for it. wanna email him about this..