Dealergate: part deux

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rudder

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Back when the government started shuttering Chrysler and GM dealerships... we now see that if you were a white male dealership owner... you got bumped to the top of the closure list.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/race_played_role_in_obama_car.html

Yeh yeh... American Thinker... aright wing nut source. But here is a link for the googley/reading comprehension challenged people (not that there is anything wrong with them):

http://www.sigtarp.gov/reports/audi...educe Their Dealership Networks 7_19_2010.pdf

Dealerships were retained because they were recently appointed, were key wholesale parts dealers, or were minority- or woman-owned dealerships.

I will await NAACP comment on this one.
 
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rudder

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No proof was actually given by the article, nor by that monstrous .PDF.

The TARP inspector general formed that statement from either knowing about internal whitehouse memorandums or from data sets that we are currently not privy to. The PDF at 45 pages is monstrous... but it does not include individual dealership data. The interesting part of the audit clearly states that dealership terminations were not based on GM's and Chrysler's cost savings estimates (which is actually listed in the table of contents).

As the audit points out... there were a lot of large markets that were oversaturated... but there were also a lot of rural markets where these dealers had a competitive advantage. Incidentally these rural areas typically did not support obama. These area had their dealerships closed.

All in all it will be interested to see how this plays out whilst obama is on vacation.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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All in all it will be interested to see how this plays out whilst obama is on vacation.

It's not going to play out at all. I doubt this happened but even if it did, 99.9% of people don't care about this story and it won't get any traction.
 

rudder

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It's not going to play out at all. I doubt this happened but even if it did, 99.9% of people don't care about this story and it won't get any traction.

I am 99.9% in agreement that you will not see this in any mainstream media reports. Just another footnote in the glorious obama presidency.
 

ichy

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That's pretty bad.

"Zer vill be diverzity! Off to ze re-education campz wiz you!"

Admittedly an exageration, but still. The problem with having to choose between Republicans and Democrats is that you can vote for the party that panders to religious extremists, or the one that sucks up to race-hustlers and poverty pimps. No good choice :(
 

waggy

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they had a interview with one of the largest dealers in the us (think he was 75th in the nation) and he got SHUT DOWN. he said the only thing he can think of is his competitor supported Obama.

I never understood why they would shut down a top dealership in the nation. it would always blow my mind
 

piasabird

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It is a reward for hard work, and an accomplishment.

Wonder when that law suit will get to the supreme court.

Dont worry the Commerce Clause will protect you??? O Bammah will make it all better!
 

BoberFett

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Sounds right now like it's speculation without firm evidence.

If it true though, I wonder if anyone looked at the racial makeup of those laid off due to the closings? How many black mechanics were laid off so that one wealthy black business owner could keep his dealership? Think Jesse, Al, and the NAACP would be interested in that statistic? I imagine they'd keep rather quiet about that. Don't want to piss of their Democrat massuhs.
 

Patranus

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-Sorry, this thread title doesn't give a lot of info.

The Obama administration, already under fire for unprecedented allegations of racial bias, faces a new bias claim from a most unlikely source: one of the administration's own inspectors general.

Decisions on which car dealerships to close as part of the auto industry bailout -- closures the Obama administration forced on General Motors and Chrysler -- were based in part on race and gender, according to a report by Troubled Asset Relief Program Special Inspector General Neal M. Barofsky.

"Dealerships were retained because they were recently appointed, were key wholesale parts dealers, or were minority- or woman-owned dealerships."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/race_played_role_in_obama_car.html

Link to PDF report - Page 22
http://www.sigtarp.gov/reports/audi...educe Their Dealership Networks 7_19_2010.pdf

I wonder who will be thrown under the bus for this one.
Obummer.
 
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Fern

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Sounds right now like it's speculation without firm evidence.
-snip-

Well, given it's an official report by Troubled Asset Relief Program Special Inspector General Neal M. Barofsky I think it's more than speculation. Whether anything will come from it is anybody's guess.

Fern
 

bfdd

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That's pretty bad.

"Zer vill be diverzity! Off to ze re-education campz wiz you!"

Admittedly an exageration, but still. The problem with having to choose between Republicans and Democrats is that you can vote for the party that panders to religious extremists, or the one that sucks up to race-hustlers and poverty pimps. No good choice :(

then stop voting for Republicans and Democrats.
 

Patranus

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This is a perfect example of how idiotic it is to allow the federal government to have this kind of power over society. Whenever government "plays god" decisions are made to favor a certain constituents at the expense of other constituents. It is time for the federal government to stop micromanaging private sector business.
 

woolfe9999

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The way that PDF reads, it was GM management who made the calls about individual dealerships, while the Treasury's Auto Team either passed or rejected the overall plan from the standpoint of financial viability. Initially the Treasury rejected GM's dealership closure plan because they weren't closing enough dealerships, fast enough. Nowhere does the PDF even hint at Treasury or White House personnel having any input into micromanaging which dealerships were closed or to remain open, and for what reasons.

I am open to correction on this, of course, as I obviously have not read the entire PDF and likely never will.

- wolf
 
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