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Dealer warranty on used car

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Should I still hire an independent mechanic to look at the car before I buy? If so, what is missing from this warranty? I'm looking at a hybrid SUV with 73000 miles on it.

http://kayserford.dealerconnection.com/OurWarranty/

What does the Best Dealer Warranty in the Country look like?

Two years or 100,000 miles of Powertrain Coverage
This means two years from the time you purchase your vehicle from us or until 100,000 miles shows on the odometer, we will fix any issues that arise with the powertrain of your vehicle. (what is covered is listed below).


Nationwide Coverage
Unlike most dealer warranties where they make you come back to them for any repairs we understand that you may not be in our backyard when you have a problem. This is why we allow you to get your vehicle repaired at select dealers around the country.


Proof of Quality
The value or reliability of a used car can not easily be determined by just looking at the car. Even a thorough visual inspection by a certified technician can not unearth future problem areas. This is why we provide you with a free Auto Check report provided by Experian. Experian is the same company who provides your credit report and they can tell you if the vehicle has been involved in any major accidents. How may people have owned the vehicle and where the vehicle has been driven during its life.


Only select dealers are eligible
Few dealership throughout the country have qualified to offer the Q Ultimate Warranty. To qualify a dealer must excel in three main areas . A proven history of quality and thorough vehicle inspections with a 90% or better CSI rating from their manufacturer. A strong history of volume sales leadership within their market and a strong presence in their community both business and charitable involvement.


Unannounced 3rd Party Inspections
We get inspected three to four times throughout the year by an independent 3rd party (Resource Automotive or AON) to insure we are adhering to the inspection rules and guidelines.


24- hour 7 days a week Round-The-Clock Assistance
For one year after purchasing your vehicle you will be able to use Road Americas Roadside assistance service.


Towing Service
When necessary, your vehicle will be towed to the nearest Q Ultimate dealer for repairs (one year from date of purchase). Also for one year from the date of purchase you get these added benefits.


Additional Benefits
  • Flat Tire assistance
  • Battery Jump Service
  • Lock out Assistance
  • Gas, oil or fluid delivery service
  • Rental reimbursement if your car needs to be held overnight.
  • Tire hazard protection
  • Trip interruption coverage.
The coverage
Engine
Gasoline Engine
Cylinder block and all internal lubricated parts including; crankshaft, rod and main bearings, cam bearings, expansion (freeze) plugs, connecting rods, wrist pins, pistons, piston rings, camshaft, cam tower, lifters, cylinder head, valves and guides, valve springs, rocker arms (cam followers), pushrods, timing chain housing cover, timing chain and sprockets, timing belts and pullys, timing belt tensioner, intake and exhaust manifolds, flywheel, balance shaft, harmonic balancer, and retainer bolts, crankshaft pulley, valve covers, oil pan, oil pump and pressure relief valve, engine oil cooler hoses, oil filter adapter/housing, engine oil sending unit, engine mounts, water pump, temperature sending unit, thermostat and housing, fuel supply pump, vacuum pump, dipstick and tube, fasteners for the components listed above.

Turbocharged/Supercharged/Rotary/Diesel Enhanced Engines
All of the above listed parts or equivalent plus, turbocharger, waste gate controller, intercooler, hard lines, compressor, clutch and pulley. Bypass valve, injection pump, lines and nozzles.

Transmission
Automatic
Case and all internal lubricated parts including oil pump, valve body, torque converter, vacuum modulator, governor, main shafts, clutches. Bands, drums, gear sets, bearings, bushings. SealifastenersTV cable, solenoid and electronic shift control unit, transmission mounts, cooler, cooler hoses and hard lines, dipstick and tube, fasteners for the components listed above.

Standard
Case and all internal lubricated parts including main shaft, gear sets, shift forks, synchronizers, bearings, bushings, fasteners for the components listed above. Transfer case - (4x4 Vehicles) - Case and all internal lubricated parts including, main shaft, gear sets, chain and sprockets, bearings, bushings, mounts, fasteners for the components listed above, electronic and vacuum engagement components.

Drive Axels
Front Wheel Drive
Final drive housing and all internal parts including carrier case, gear sets, chain and sprockets, bearings, bushings, axle shafts, universal joints, front hub bearings. Locking hub assemblies (4x4), drive shaft support, fasteners for the components listed above.

Rear Wheel Drive
Drive axle housing and all internal lubricated parts including, carrier case, gear sets, bearings bushings, limited slip clutch pack, axle shafts, rear hub bearings, propeller shafts, universal joints, drive shaft support, fasteners for the components listed above.

Note: For complete coverage regarding specific details, limitations and responsibilities refer to the Q Certified limited Powertrain Warranty.
FAQ's about the Q Ultimate Warranty from Kayser
Q Do all cars have it?
A - Only cars that have less than 100,000 miles on the odometer and are newer than 8 years old quality. About 85% of our inventory mix qualifies.

Q Do I need to take my car to you for all the maintenance work?
A No we feel our technicians as well as our prices can not be beat, however if you prefer to go to your own mechanic that's fine, the warranty still is valid.

Q Is there any deductible?
A Yes, $200

Q I want to buy a car at Kayser in Stoughton do they also offer this warranty. A All Kayser Dealerships in Madison, Sauk Prairie, Stoughton and Watertown have this warranty.
Q Do I need to do ALL factory recommended maintenance in order for the warranty to be valid?
A Absolutely...if you want to keep your car running well past 100,000 you should at the very least follow the factory recommended maintenance per your owners manual, but we always recommend an oil change every 3,000 or 3 months. It's a proven fact it will stretch out the life of any vehicle. If you don't do the factory maintenance the Warranty would be void as well as the health of your car.

Q How do you know if I have done ALL the Factory service if I don't come back to you?
A You will need to retain the paper records for the maintenance work performed. This is a good idea anyway to increase resale value down the road. Our dealership retains these records on our customers behalf as well as reports all work done to CARFAX to again build the resale value of your car.

Q Is it REALLY the Best in the Country?
A To our knowledge yes, We have found a few dealers that include an Extended Warranty with used vehicle purchases for certain sales or promotions, but no other dealer that we know of will offer 2 years or 100,000 of coverage with all the extra benefits year round.

Q Do I need an Extended Warranty if I buy a used car from you?
A That is up to you, the Q Ultimate Warranty covers your powertrain, but there are many other components that are not covered. Many of those components can cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars to fix. We recommend you look at the overall risk vs reward when deciding on an Extended Service Contract.

Q If I bought a car from another dealer, can I buy only the Q Ultimate Coverage from you?
A Unfortunately not, we can only provide this service to cars we are able to inspect. Certain inspection protocols must be done to qualify a car for the warranty.

Q So if I am vacationing in Florida and my car breaks down, what do I do?
A You would simply call the 1.800 number we give you at delivery and someone will begin to make arrangement to have your vehicle towed in and begin to plan any other services you may need.

Q Is the 1.800 number going to get routed over to India who will not understand my situation?
A No, the call center in located in Chicago and handles all warranty issues for the largest automotive warranty company in the world. This means they are constantly talking with Dealerships, Tow trucks and customers who are in a similar situation you are.

Q Where can I get a list of Q Ultimate Shops?
A Ask your selling dealer for a list of dealerships in areas you visit frequently.

Q Why only certain Dealerships?
A Who works on your cars is almost as important as how often you get your oil changed. Technicians are like doctors for your car and although cars are machines each one is slightly different and needs to be treated that way. The dealers we recommend have all met the same standards we were held to during our inspection period and we feel are capable of fixing your problem and not causing others.

Please see a Kayser sales person for any further questions.
 
you will only have 27k left on the warranty....

you still have a $200 deductible....

it boils down to how much the warranty is....
 
1) What happens if the warranty company goes out of business? The dealer is typically NOT the underwriter for the warranty.
2) If you cancel the warranty, do you get a pro-rated refund?
3) Buying a older hybrid seems very risky due to battery longevity questions. Read the extended warranty and see what kind of coverage for hybrids.

What I would do is buy the warranty and cancel it after a couple of months to get the refund. By doing that, you cover yourself against any hidden problems.
 
Thanks for the replies. I did some research on hybrid batteries, and it seems that once it dies you might as well just junk the car.
 
Who will be the first to mention that priuses used as taxi cabs ran 300k + miles on the original battery? Even so, I don't know if I'd take the risk.
 
Thanks for the replies. I did some research on hybrid batteries, and it seems that once it dies you might as well just junk the car.
Well, not quite. If you go to dealer the battery is pricey but you can get replacements cheaper with a little effort. Anyway, the life on these things is really long. Go to some hybrid forums and you'll find that very few people, even with well over 100k on their cars, are having battery problems.
 
Who will be the first to mention that priuses used as taxi cabs ran 300k + miles on the original battery? Even so, I don't know if I'd take the risk.
Does anyone know if hybrid battery longevity is a function of time or mileage? I'm sure it's a combination of both, but which one is a stronger factor? Taxis probably rack up 300K miles very quickly!
 
I'm not sure what's missing from that, but I always recommend getting an independent mechanic to look at a used car before purchasing it.
 
I'm not sure what's missing from that, but I always recommend getting an independent mechanic to look at a used car before purchasing it.

Yeah, I'm getting that feeling after doing more research.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/autos/aut03.shtm
Pre-Purchase Independent Inspection

It's best to have any used car inspected by an independent mechanic before you buy it. For about $100 or less, you'll get a general indication of the mechanical condition of the vehicle. An inspection is a good idea even if the car has been "certified" and inspected by the dealer and is being sold with a warranty or service contract. A mechanical inspection is different from a safety inspection. Safety inspections usually focus on conditions that make a car unsafe to drive. They are not designed to determine the overall reliability or mechanical condition of a vehicle.

To find a pre-purchase inspection facility, check your Yellow Pages under "Automotive Diagnostic Service" or ask friends, relatives, and co-workers for referrals. Look for facilities that display certifications like an Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) seal. Certification indicates that some or all of the technicians meet basic standards of knowledge and competence in specific technical areas. Make sure the certifications are current, but remember that certification alone is no guarantee of good or honest work. Also ask to see current licenses if state or local law requires such facilities to be licensed or registered. Check with your state Attorney General's office or local consumer protection agency to find out whether there's a record of complaints about particular facilities.

There are no standard operating procedures for pre-purchase inspections. Ask what the inspection includes, how long it takes, and how much it costs. Get this information in writing.

If the dealer won't let you take the car off the lot, perhaps because of insurance restrictions, you may be able to find a mobile inspection service that will go to the dealer. If that's not an option, ask the dealer to have the car inspected at a facility you designate. You will have to pay the inspection fee.

Once the vehicle has been inspected, ask the mechanic for a written report with a cost estimate for all necessary repairs. Be sure the report includes the vehicle's make, model, and VIN. Make sure you understand every item. If you decide to make a purchase offer to the dealer after considering the inspection's results, you can use the estimated repair costs to negotiate the price of the vehicle.
 
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