Deadlift ... hands can't handle the weight.

[Illyusha]

Use these:

 

[coreyb]

get on a real program

 

[Zivic]

AKA Not an educated one since you don't know anything about the OP.

and you know even less about me.... got to ask, who died and made you the all-knowing king?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

and you know even less about me.... got to ask, who died and made you the all-knowing king?

I know that you like to judge people because they don't do things as you like to.

I didn't infer anything about the OP as a person or a lifter so it seems that I didn't claim to know anything, other than what has been shown in research and in hundreds of anecdotes to work for novices while minimizing injury.

 

[Zivic]

I know that you like to judge people because they don't do things as you like to.

I didn't infer anything about the OP as a person or a lifter so it seems that I didn't claim to know anything, other than what has been shown in research and in hundreds of anecdotes to work for novices while minimizing injury.

you sure as heck think you know a lot about me..... maybe keep reading your anecdotes and I'll get more real world experience in the gym

 

[SociallyChallenged]

you sure as heck think you know a lot about me..... maybe keep reading your anecdotes and I'll get more real world experience in the gym

Anecdotes = real world experiences. They're just not valid as research. On the other hand, research is valid as such. I didn't infer anything about you besides what you've made evident in your condescending posts. He's in the weight room. He's trying to improve. Just because he doesn't meet your standards of perceived intensity or workout regimen doesn't mean he isn't getting significantly better.

 

[Zivic]

Anecdotes = real world experiences. They're just not valid as research. On the other hand, research is valid as such. I didn't infer anything about you besides what you've made evident in your condescending posts. He's in the weight room. He's trying to improve. Just because he doesn't meet your standards of perceived intensity or workout regimen doesn't mean he isn't getting significantly better.

doesn't meet my standards????

I want him to use as much weight as he can. I find, from my experience, people starting out have mental blocks about handling weight. I am not trying to discourage him.

 

[ibex333]

you shouldn't be having trouble gripping a 160lb deadlift. that is extremely light. I would start back at 145 (90 + bar) and work up 10-20 lbs a week for a while. Eat a lot.

STARTING STRENGTH!

You're kidding right? You must be some kind of a genetics freak or mommy was feeding you real well, but I was dying trying to lift a 125lbs barbell when I started. I am still struggling with 150lbs. I am not overweight, 29 years old.

 

[Howard]

doesn't meet my standards????

I want him to use as much weight as he can. I find, from my experience, people starting out have mental blocks about handling weight. I am not trying to discourage him.

Help me to understand how handling weight that you can't handle will help you with a mental block. Believe it or not, repeated failure doesn't do good for one's psyche.

 

[Zivic]

Help me to understand how handling weight that you can't handle will help you with a mental block. Believe it or not, repeated failure doesn't do good for one's psyche.

mental block... oh my hands hurt

 

[Howard]

mental block... oh my hands hurt

What?

 

[Zivic]

What?

WHAT????????

it's too heavy

my hands hurt

are you sure I won't get hurt

I just don't know if I can do it

My arm kind of hurts

the bar rubbed on my leg, I think I scratched it bad

I'm breathing real hard

all of these have nothing relevant to do with handling the weight... mental blocks that keep a person from actually lifting a weight they could otherwise handle

 

[Howard]

WHAT????????

it's too heavy

my hands hurt

are you sure I won't get hurt

I just don't know if I can do it

My arm kind of hurts

the bar rubbed on my leg, I think I scratched it bad

I'm breathing real hard

So you're listing complaints. Cool. What does this have to do with starting out heavy to eliminate mental blocks?

 

[Deeko]

So you're listing complaints. Cool. What does this have to do with starting out heavy to eliminate mental blocks?

I think you're missing his point - he is saying that the OP cam in fact handle the heavier weight, its a mental block that's preventing him from doing so. That if the OP has the confidence to ignore, say, that it hurts his hands, that he'll actually be able to do it.

 

[Zivic]

So you're listing complaints. Cool. What does this have to do with starting out heavy to eliminate mental blocks?

anyone of those is a reason a person goes for a lighter weight than they could handle.. has nothing to do with their capability or strength. They psych them self out of the lift because of something inside their head

 

[Pantlegz]

You're kidding right? You must be some kind of a genetics freak or mommy was feeding you real well, but I was dying trying to lift a 125lbs barbell when I started. I am still struggling with 150lbs. I am not overweight, 29 years old.

I may be one of those 2 as well, I started DLing 225 I think and went up from there. I still warm up with a set of 5 or 10 at 225. Although I do think looking at raw number and not what % of that persons bodyweight they're lifting is flawed. I mean 225 is less than my bw where 160 in this case may be well over the OP's bw.

 

[Howard]

anyone of those is a reason a person goes for a lighter weight than they could handle.. has nothing to do with their capability or strength. They psych them self out of the lift because of something inside their head

They're not going to stay at low weight forever. What's the rush?

 

[Zivic]

They're not going to stay at low weight forever. What's the rush?

I guess if you don't give a sh!t, then sure what's the rush.

if it were me, and I could push another 40 lbs for reps, the results come that much quicker. I would prefer to be bigger and stronger now vs 6 months down the road.

 

[EvilYoda]

Man, you guys are still going strong, eh? OP's responded once to his thread, LOL.

 

[Howard]

I guess if you don't give a sh!t, then sure what's the rush.

if it were me, and I could push another 40 lbs for reps, the results come that much quicker. I would prefer to be bigger and stronger now vs 6 months down the road.

Why does it matter so much if somebody's priorities aren't the same as yours?

And you're right, I don't give a shit. This is the Internet.

 

[Zivic]

Why does it matter so much if somebody's priorities aren't the same as yours?

And you're right, I don't give a shit. This is the Internet.

why spend weeks "working yourself up to" a weight you could have handled from the start?

What are people's motive for going to the gym and lift weights?
I would think to get bigger [muscles] and stronger. Why spend unnecessary time on weights you can already handle? I choose to work out as efficiently and effectively as I can. I guess I have strange "priorities" that differ from the average person

 

[Howard]

why spend weeks "working yourself up to" a weight you could have handled from the start?

To learn good form, allow for gradual adaptation, and to reinforce beneficial habits?

 

[Zivic]

To learn good form, allow for gradual adaptation, and to reinforce beneficial habits?

You just trying to be argumentative???

all else equal in terms of form, adaptation, and beneficial habits what's more effective?
doing 120 lbs or 160 lbs?

 

[Deeko]

To learn good form, allow for gradual adaptation, and to reinforce beneficial habits?

I'm not necessarily saying this is the case with the OP, but you do realize that not everyone starts at the same level, yes? What might seem like a good starting point for you is not a good starting point for someone else. Perhaps for someone that is adding deadlifts to their workout regimine with a lot more strength/experience can do all the things you just said at a higher weight than you.

 

[Howard]

I'm not necessarily saying this is the case with the OP, but you do realize that not everyone starts at the same level, yes? What might seem like a good starting point for you is not a good starting point for someone else. Perhaps for someone that is adding deadlifts to their workout regimine with a lot more strength/experience can do all the things you just said at a higher weight than you.

I know that. I just think that there's less of a benefit than one might think to jump straight into a routine where one is immediately worked to failure.