DEAD PowerLite Home Cinema 720 - Refurbished with LENS SHIFT! $499 Shipped!

[funboy6942]

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63077838

Linkage

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/powerlite-home_cinema_720/
review

Specifications

Projection System

* Epson 3LCD technology

Projection Method

* Front / rear / ceiling mount

LCD

* 3-chip optical engine poly-silicon TFT active matrix
* Resolution
Native 720p (1280 x 720)
* Aspect Ratio
Native 16:9 (4:3 resize)

Projection Lens

* F-number
2.0 – 3.17

Lamp

* 170 W UHE lamp
* Lamp Life
Up to 3000 Hours1

Screen Size (Projected Distance) - 16:9 Image

* 100" (wide: 10.5' – tele: 22')

Lens Shift Range

* Vertical
±100%
* Horizontal
± 50%

Brightness

* Up to 1600 lumens (in Dynamic Mode)

Contrast Ratio

* Up to 10,000:1 (in Dynamic Mode)

Video I/O

* HDMI
* 3 RCA (component)
* 1 RCA (composite)
* 1 Mini Din (S-video)
* 1 Mini D-Sub 15 pin (analog RGB)

Control I/O

* 1 trigger out port
* 1 Mini D-Sub 9 pin (RS-232c)

Dimensions

* Height: 4.9 inches (124 mm); not including adjustable feet
Width: 16 inches (406 mm)
Depth: 12.2 inches (309 mm); not including lens protrusion

Weight

* 11.9 lb. (5.4 g)

Notes

* 1 Lamp life results will vary depending upon mode selected, environmental conditions and usage

*"Our Price" is for purchases directly from Epson. Dealer Prices may vary. All prices are in U.S. Dollars.

 

[Spelvin]

Woot! Nice find! Thanks Funboy, Also you can save another $59.88 using coupon code

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Brings it down to $439.12

Thanks again!

 

[TwiceOver]

Very tempting.

 

[Cstefan]

Damnit.... incredible deal.

 

[Pulsar]

Help me out - I was under the impression that you wanted something at least in the 2500-3000 lumen range if you were going to use one of these regularly in a non-dark room.

This appears to be 1600 lumen. Isn't that lower than one would want?

 

[Spelvin]

Pulsar, Having lived with only projectors as a TV display for the last 6 years I would disagree on needing something as bright as 2500 lumens, However it does depend on your viewing habits. From my experience it is natural light that really kills the picture. The majority of my watching is in the evening, however I usually have the room lights on at a level that is normal for reading and other activities. I have taken the time to adjust most of my lights so that they do not shine directly on the screen and I may not be nearly as picky as some people.

My first projector was an Infocus 4805 which had a supposed contrast of 2000:1 and a whole 750 Ansi lumens. I still use this unit in the bedroom and generally have the lights on while using it for catching up on tech news and such. When it is time to settle in and enjoy a show or movie, the lights go or down out and the picture is great.

2500-3000 lumens is intense light, I imagine it would actually be a lot harder to calibrate a projector with that much light to standard brightness specification.

What is the environment you want to put the projector in? Are you looking to replace a TV? At this price I would leave the LCD or Plasma on the wall for the daytime watching, then do a pull down screen for at night when you want that I am at the Movies factor. You can even use an inexpensive screen like this These:
$28.58 for a 92" diagonal 16:9
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...4~7ASCR00E.htm
$45.82 for a 106" Diagonal 16:9
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...4~7ASCR00F.htm
$57.50 for a 100" diagonal 16:9 screen.
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...2~7ASCR00H.htm

Also you will need a sound system if you do not already have one since projectors aren't known for providing anything usable for that...

 

[Pulsar]

Pulsar, Having lived with only projectors as a TV display for the last 6 years I would disagree on needing something as bright as 2500 lumens, However it does depend on your viewing habits. From my experience it is natural light that really kills the picture. The majority of my watching is in the evening, however I usually have the room lights on at a level that is normal for reading and other activities. I have taken the time to adjust most of my lights so that they do not shine directly on the screen and I may not be nearly as picky as some people.

My first projector was an Infocus 4805 which had a supposed contrast of 2000:1 and a whole 750 Ansi lumens. I still use this unit in the bedroom and generally have the lights on while using it for catching up on tech news and such. When it is time to settle in and enjoy a show or movie, the lights go or down out and the picture is great.

2500-3000 lumens is intense light, I imagine it would actually be a lot harder to calibrate a projector with that much light to standard brightness specification.

What is the environment you want to put the projector in? Are you looking to replace a TV? At this price I would leave the LCD or Plasma on the wall for the daytime watching, then do a pull down screen for at night when you want that I am at the Movies factor. You can even use an inexpensive screen like this These:
$28.58 for a 92" diagonal 16:9
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...4~7ASCR00E.htm
$45.82 for a 106" Diagonal 16:9
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...4~7ASCR00F.htm
$57.50 for a 100" diagonal 16:9 screen.
http://www.provantage.com/accuscreen...2~7ASCR00H.htm

Also you will need a sound system if you do not already have one since projectors aren't known for providing anything usable for that...

LCD? Plasma? You must be mistaking me for someone who spends money on tech =).

I'm using a 48 inch projection TV that my wife bought at a garage sale for $2 because the tuner died on it and the person selling it didn't understand (even after having it explained to her) that the new digital tuner boxes negated the necessity of having a tuner - but I digress a bit.

My room is a great-room. It has the kitchen, dining room, and living room as one 40x40 room with a 24 foot ceiling. I've kept one wall clear and when I've borrowed projectors I can get the screen up to about 18 feet wide before it starts to impinge upon the ceiling. Those projectors have been a bit dim in natural light. As I have three small children, actually keeping blinds and doors closed is pretty much impossible. Luckily there's no direct light except around 7 AM. I've been told by a couple AV people though that the higher lumen projectors are going to look much better, which is why I wonder about the 1600 rating.

 

[Spelvin]

18' across...yep, that is going to take a lot of lumens. Projector central has a great calculator for throw and brightness in Foot Lamberts.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_720-projection-calculator-pro.htm

At around 26' away from the wall you should be able to get an 18' wide picture that is around 10' tall, but only 9 foot Lamberts of brightness. Compared to the Acer H5360 which is 2500 Ansi Lumens, the same throw would be 28' from the wall and 14 foot lamberts.

Foot-Lambert (fL)

Measurement of luminance (brightness) emitted from a surface. One foot-Lambert is equal to one lumen per square foot. The metric equivalent of one foot-Lambert is 3.426259 nits or cd/m2. The SMPTE standard for theater cinema is 16 fL.
(http://www.projectorcentral.com/glossary.cfm#F)

So both projectors fall short of 16 Foot Lamberts

Generally 2500 or 2600 Lumens is what you will find in home theater projectors. Once you step up to Board room projectors for large meeting spaces or actual theater projectors is when you will see Lumens above and beyond 3000. I am not saying you won't find a Sub $500 projector that is over 3000 lumens, but you probably won't find a highly regarded home theater projector with the proper aspect ratio and inputs and contrast levels that this unit can offer.

What ever you end up doing, Take lots of pics!

 

[jalaram]

Oos

 

[funboy6942]

Help me out - I was under the impression that you wanted something at least in the 2500-3000 lumen range if you were going to use one of these regularly in a non-dark room.

This appears to be 1600 lumen. Isn't that lower than one would want?

Then for $699 you want the PowerLite Home Cinema 705HD. It boasts 2500 lumens, and upto 5000 hours bulb life. No lens shift, but mine doesnt have it and was easy to install.

 

[v8envy]

The 750HD is $625 shipped at amazon. Still, for only $125 more the longer life bulb rating may make that an equivalent deal for someone planning to use this projector a lot.

Tempting, but, I'm still holding out for 1080p. Maybe next year.

 

[funboy6942]

The 750HD is $625 shipped at amazon. Still, for only $125 more the longer life bulb rating may make that an equivalent deal for someone planning to use this projector a lot.

Tempting, but, I'm still holding out for 1080p. Maybe next year.

I posted a new thread on this pj. It is at visualapex for $629.99. Its $5 more but the customer service more then makes up for it IMO. Its bright, and the hours are long. Bulb price isnt bad either should you have to change it, $199. If you buy from visualapex and they offer a 2 year bulb replacement plan take it. I had mine go out little after I bought it and VA took care o it and got me a new bulb right away and didnt even ask for the old one back. Hence why I mention VA is worth the extra $5 to have that kind of service.