dead athlon? noooooo!!!!

Kenjura

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I was installing my new a7v333 mobo today. I remove the heatsink and cpu from the old mobo, swapped the boards, then planted the cpu and seated the fan.

I tested it. It worked. The bios asked me to set the speed, and I set it to 1333 (normal). I rebooted several times. The cpu was running for several minutes just fine.

I connected some more stuff, then tried the bastard again. No video. The a7v333 has a vocal POST messaging thinger, and it happily announces

SYSTEM FAILED CPU TEST

over and over. I reboot. I reboot again. I unseat the fan, remove the cpu, put it back in, and re-seat the fan. Still screwed.



Now, if it had said that from the BEGINNING, I would assume crushing damage or overheating. But it worked fine. Nothing about the cpu or fan changed at all between the first (successful) test and the second (failed) test.

Can this actually happen? Can an overheated CPU show no physical signs of damage, and continue to generate heat when turned on? Do I actually have to bend over and take AMD's no returns policy on this?

I'm extremely upset. It really doesn't help that my laptop started showing problems as soon as I turned it on to e-mail asus. There's a blight upon me this night.


sigh.

 

Dreadogg

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<< I connected some more stuff, then tried the bastard again. No video. The a7v333 has a vocal POST messaging thinger, and it happily announces >>

Did you try disconnecting these things and rebooting? Also did you try atleast clearing the bios?
 

Kenjura

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clearing my bios? how am I meant to do that? I don't have an ultraviolet light handy. Maybe ripping out the battery or the cmos chip would do it? I'd rather not screw with what is probably a perfectly good motherboard.

I'll give the old motherboard a try, perhaps, though I did already buy a new cpu.

 

Dreadogg

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<< clearing my bios? how am I meant to do that? I don't have an ultraviolet light handy. Maybe ripping out the battery or the cmos chip would do it? I'd rather not screw with what is probably a perfectly good motherboard. >>

LOL


<< I don't have an ultraviolet light handy >>

this is the first time I heard of this!
 

Colt45

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There is a jumper usually to clear the CMOS. If not, disconnect the main ATX plug from the mobo and remove the battery for a while.
 

Jen

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might be powersupply as problem also


not enough power can do strange things


i just had to change out my topower 400 to my enlight 400 to get tester to work again



Jen
 

microAmp

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<< clearing my bios? how am I meant to do that? I don't have an ultraviolet light handy. Maybe ripping out the battery or the cmos chip would do it? I'd rather not screw with what is probably a perfectly good motherboard. >>



That's some old mobo you got there..... ;) Look at the manual and look for a jumper to clear the BIOS. You don't use a UV light at all, different memory chip in your mobo, flash if I remember right.
 

ssanches

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<<

<< clearing my bios? how am I meant to do that? I don't have an ultraviolet light handy. Maybe ripping out the battery or the cmos chip would do it? I'd rather not screw with what is probably a perfectly good motherboard. >>

LOL


<< I don't have an ultraviolet light handy >>

this is the first time I heard of this!
>>



Actually that's what used to be done for to erase the ROMs earlier. That's how we got the term "Flashing" your bios
 

Kenjura

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Then obviously you haven't been using computers very long. For quite some time, BIOS was stored in EPROMS, erasable rom chips. The only way to erase them was to shine ultraviolet light through a special window. This window is usually covered by a sticker of some sort, and is generally only used by manufacturers or perhaps computer repair shops.

I can't very well flash my bios or anything if the COMPUTER will not START.
 

MarkHark

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First of all, try disconnecting all drives and cardboards from your mobo, except for the video card, memory, and the cpu itself. Don't forget to disconnect the drives from the PSU too.

If the system still do not boot after this, use the jumpers to clear the CMOS and try again. If this still do not work, remove your cpu from the new mobo and reinstall it on the old motherboard. If it does not worl, then you probably have killed it.
 

Dreadogg

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thats probally why it sounded so funny to me! Sorry about that I stand corrected and the best part about this is that I learned some ancient history today.;) I still think its funny though!
 

Dreadogg

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<< I can't very well flash my bios or anything if the COMPUTER will not START >>

And anyway we were recommending that you clear the bios by a jumper setting or removing the batterie for some time!

Edit: no one is this post recommended flashing your bios! And I am sorry if I offended you with my comment I accually did not know they did that, and maybe you can answere a question for me. When did they stop doing this? It sounds really interesting does anyone have a link to some stuff on this?
 

ssanches

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<<

<< I can't very well flash my bios or anything if the COMPUTER will not START >>

And anyway we were recommending that you clear the bios by a jumper setting or removing the batterie for some time!

Edit: no one is this post recommended flashing your bios! And I am sorry if I offended you with my comment I accually did not know they did that, and maybe you can answere a question for me. When did they stop doing this? It sounds really interesting does anyone have a link to some stuff on this?
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Hey no problem! ;) All of us on this forum are here to learn.....

Here's a link http://www.thestaffguide.com/tests/bios_pc.htm

Here's another one

Yet another one

And another one... :)

And another ;)

Google :)

Kenjura: Did you try swapping the CPU / SMPS? What are the beep codes you're getting?