De-Lidding and the Ivy Bridge Flagship

[BonzaiDuck]

I just discovered this, and I don't think I ever saw it here. Of course, you might think it defeats the purpose of our enterprise. But then . . . the Ivy Bridge Flagship is the "Starship Enterprise 'Last Generation':"

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=733766

The posts on that thread are short and sweet. Perhaps someone else more knowledgeable can confirm from the pictures for the rest of us that the conclusion is true: The $1,000 Ivy Bridge socket-2011 i7-4960X has an IHS that is SOLDERED to the die.

In other words, somebody actually took the risk of de-lidding a 4960X and bit the big . . .green . . . . wienie . . .

NOW . . . this Bad Boy has only two problems: It costs a Kilo-Buck; and it has a TDP of 130W. But . . . . [you don' need to de-lid it to stick your silver waterblock on that sucker . . . ]

 

[GreenChile]

I'm pretty sure most everyone here already knew the socket 2011 CPUs are soldered.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm pretty sure most everyone here already knew the socket 2011 CPUs are soldered.

Does that mean "all" of them? I'm surprised that I missed this. Are ALL the IB-E's made with solder between the IHS and die?

 

[Homeles]

Does that mean "all" of them? I'm surprised that I missed this. Are ALL the IB-E's made with solder between the IHS and die?

Yeah. So was SNB-E. Haswell-E will almost undoubtedly be the same.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Yeah. So was SNB-E. Haswell-E will almost undoubtedly be the same.

Well, I'm humbled that I missed this. I could try and invent some excuse, but I missed it. When Ivy Bridge was released, we were soon treated to IDontCare's de-lidding experiments. Somehow, I missed making the distinction with the socket-2011 "E" chips.

So there's still the same dilemma, explaining why it was so important to de-lid the socket 1155 offerings. The SB-E's and IB-E's are all spec'd at a 130W TDP, while the other CPUs have been in the 77W to 84W range.

Someone (like me) -- just "thinking" about a prospective build project -- could forego the de-lidding imperative with socket-2011. But you'd then need to consider better cooling -- almost certainly water.

This ain't like the old days, izzit?

 

[Pheesh]

as a general rule Expect any Intel CPU 95W or greater to be soldered

 

[BonzaiDuck]

as a general rule Expect any Intel CPU 95W or greater to be soldered

It would only make sense, and easily deducible. Somehow, we expect the direct information to just fall from the sky, so we don't turn our brain up to full processor speed . . .