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DDR: PC2400 / PC2700 & P4 NORTHWOOD

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JOSEPHLB

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Ok.. short and sweet.

I have an Asus P4S333 sitting here, waiting. My P4 2.0A Ghz Northwood is in route.
Currently, I have one stick of Crucial 256MB PC2100 CL 2.5 DDR, with a heatspreader, Thermaltake heatsink mod applied (takes up alot of space.. but oh well )

IF I so just happen to get lucky, and this 2.0A Ghz turns out to be a good overclocker.. what memory would I be best using? Keep my current stick of DDR..

Or.. some Corsair PC2400... or the new Kingmax PC2700 stuff?? Thanks for your time. 🙂

 
My friend just built a new system around a p4s333 (after i suggested that mobo to him) and he used kingmax pc2700 and it runs great

BUT, i've read that crucial pc2100 easily over clocks to run just fine on that board

So i'd keep what you got and see how well it overclocks. If you're serious into overclocking, though, you might want to do the pc2700 thing since you're likely to get higher speeds out of it versus a stick of pc2100 . Though i'm not sure how well p4 2.0 ghz's overclock...

 
yeah.. its very likely the first batches of Northwoods are not going to be very good overclockers..

at least for a while.. once they've been in production for a while..
then, when the 1.6A Ghz, and 1.8A Ghz versions are available.. I see the overclockability of these being pretty good, depending on what batch you get, and if they're actually just 2.0A chips, binned down
🙂
 
I can highly recommend both KingMax PC2700 (5ns TinyBGA) as well as Corsair XMS2700. The latter will do CAS2 effortlessly @ 166, the former is rated for 2.5, although I've done CAS2 without issue at 166 with those modules as well.

I'm using two 256MB sticks of XMS2700 in my P4S333 and it's great. 😀
 


<< yeah.. its very likely the first batches of Northwoods are not going to be very good overclockers..

at least for a while.. once they've been in production for a while..
then, when the 1.6A Ghz, and 1.8A Ghz versions are available.. I see the overclockability of these being pretty good, depending on what batch you get, and if they're actually just 2.0A chips, binned down
🙂 >>



That's funny. I've had my 2.0 up to 2.4 and could have gone higher. Tex has had his 2.2 up to 2.7 and change. Both aircooled.

They are not bad overclockers. And they do great in DDR setups.
 
I've got my 2ghz running stable at 2.4ghz right now. They overclock great. I've been able to post at 2.66ghz(20x133) but cant boot into windows. And thats with air cooling.

Edit: Mines only at 1.63 voltage. If I put it at 1.7v I could 2.5ghz but im scared of screwing up the chip. Especially since that review from Ace's said not to go over .15v
 


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<< yeah.. its very likely the first batches of Northwoods are not going to be very good overclockers..

at least for a while.. once they've been in production for a while..
then, when the 1.6A Ghz, and 1.8A Ghz versions are available.. I see the overclockability of these being pretty good, depending on what batch you get, and if they're actually just 2.0A chips, binned down
🙂 >>



That's funny. I've had my 2.0 up to 2.4 and could have gone higher. Tex has had his 2.2 up to 2.7 and change. Both aircooled.

They are not bad overclockers. And they do great in DDR setups. >>



Beat me to it 😀
 


<< ok.. what voltages?? >>



Are you trying to win a loosing battle?

You claimed the first batch of northwoods would not be great overclockers. You have been proven wrong three times.

Admit it and move on.
 
ummmm Tex.. I didn't claim $hit.. I was just making an assumption.. You read into it too much..
just because a few of you got some good overclocks doesn't mean every Northwood is going to overclock like that..
Enough said on that matter
So, no I haven't been proven wrong 3 times...


My question about voltages was just a simple, fuc ing question.. If you dont like it, dont read or respond 🙂

 


<< ummmm Tex.. I didn't claim $hit.. I was just making an assumption.. You read into it too much.. >>



And you were Wrong. Admit it and move on. Raising a voltage question looks like you are dodging responsibility for your assumption.

And since you still haven't admitted your error, I rest my case 🙂



<< just because a few of you got some good overclocks doesn't mean every Northwood is going to overclock like that..
Enough said on that matter
So, no I haven't been proven wrong 3 times... >>



LOL Yes you have!

And since you dont have a single northwood owner saying you are right, you are wrong. 😀



<< My question about voltages was just a simple, fuc ing question.. If you dont like it, dont read or respond 🙂 >>



LOL Such hostility! Obviously you can't admit when your wrong but thats ok.

All 3 of us are under 1.7 volts as if that has anything to do with your first assumption 🙂
 
aaah.. you're the expert.. I totally forgot 😉

One person edited, and stated their voltage.. I'm going to ask.. and their is no sin in it.. if you have nothing useful to provide.. then stop being a di(k

and , for your case.. an assumption is neither wrong or right.. but if you want your glory.. step up to the platform.. Would you like a cookie also? 😉

 
Texmaster has some crazy fan setup going on, I think the others are using stock (although I'm not sure).

Tex your a Laura Miller fan!?? BAHHHH!! Tom Dunning all the way 🙂. BTW, both of them are democrats....🙂
 
define "crazy fan setup" 😉

I need to get one of those then

Just got my Corsair XMS PC2700 today.. going to put this baby together tomorrow, and give it a go
 
Hmmm, I've got a retail 2.2 on a TH7II-RAID @ 2.6 at 1.6 that I'm posting from right now!🙂 No doubt I could post at 2.7+ at higher V. but for now am quite happy at 2.6. Oh.......also, I'm using the stock retail H/S Fan now as I'm also building one using the Asus SiS board and wanted the Swiftech on that so I swapped it out last Sun. and the thing never skipped a beat at 2.6!🙂
 
JOSEPHLB,

Don't let Tex get to ya. He just has a superiority complex and feels the need to "win" threads in order to satisfy it.


I can give you another (logical) reason of why the first Northwoods will be more overclockable. You see, currently Intel only has two major models using the .13um core, the 2.0 and 2.2Ghz chips (The 1.6 and 1.8Ghz are also available on the .13um process, but their quantity is much more limited.) That means that binning these chips is relatively "loose". Since Intel is also stuggling to maintain supply, they pretty much have to ship what they make, regardless of what it can effectively be run at. Until Intel announces faster speed grades, the "more overclockable" chips will have to binned and labeled as 2.0 and 2.2Ghz chips. One thing Intel can do is lock the multiplier, so this will limit the range in which the 1.6Ghz and 1.8Ghz can overclock to, even though the core could be just as good as the ones labeled 2.2Ghz.
 
The Corsair PC2700 CL2 memory seems to be about as good as you can get, but it is pretty pricey. OCZ PC3000 memory looks pretty good too. The Corsair memory actually meets JEDEC standards for PC2700 memory. It is not overclocked PC2100. I'm not sure about OCZ.
 
If these results are any indication, it would be safe to say that P4 NW will be one hell of OC'able CPU.

P4 NW 1.8GHz & 1.6GHz @ 3.4GHz & 3.2GHz respectably... even with LN2 cooling, its something.
 


<< Texmaster has some crazy fan setup going on, I think the others are using stock (although I'm not sure).

Tex your a Laura Miller fan!?? BAHHHH!! Tom Dunning all the way 🙂. BTW, both of them are democrats....🙂 >>




TOM DUNNING? Are you out of your mind? The guy has ZERO experience (not to mention he is trying to buy his way in) and his only platform has been to attack Laura Miller.

I pray you are too young to vote.
 


<< JOSEPHLB,

Don't let Tex get to ya. He just has a superiority complex and feels the need to "win" threads in order to satisfy it. >>




Ah Starcutter, the very essense of a Moron. Did you even read his side before defending him little buddy? LOL


Josephlb: yeah.. its very likely the first batches of Northwoods are not going to be very good overclockers.

AmusedOne: Uh mine is a great overclocker

christoph83: So is mine

Texmaster: and mine

And instead of being a man and just admitting he screwed up he said this: ok.. what voltages??

Sounding like a little kid with the "oh yeah?" arguement 🙂

I called him on it. He screamed like a baby once again missing an opportunity to end it by admitting he was wrong then you put on your tights and mask to swoop in and save him 🙂

You share a lot of triats with him ST4RCUTTER, neither one of you can admit you were wrong when you screw up 🙂
 


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<< JOSEPHLB,

Don't let Tex get to ya. He just has a superiority complex and feels the need to "win" threads in order to satisfy it. >>




Ah Starcutter, the very essense of a Moron. Did you even read his side before defending him little buddy? LOL


Josephlb: yeah.. its very likely the first batches of Northwoods are not going to be very good overclockers.

AmusedOne: Uh mine is a great overclocker

christoph83: So is mine

Texmaster: and mine

And instead of being a man and just admitting he screwed up he said this: ok.. what voltages??

Sounding like a little kid with the "oh yeah?" arguement 🙂

I called him on it. He screamed like a baby once again missing an opportunity to end it by admitting he was wrong then you put on your tights and mask to swoop in and save him 🙂

You share a lot of triats with him ST4RCUTTER, neither one of you can admit you were wrong when you screw up 🙂 >>



you guys need stop with the constant flames

its not like he said i be you guys are running at 2.0 V, maybe he was curious and in the end he did accept defeat to his claim

go easy on him he is only a senior member 🙂

 
hahaaaa

I love it..

So, there is a WHOPPING 3 of you guys that say your chips overclock well

Oh wow.. **clap clap**

so, I assume Intel only put about about a dozen or so of these Northwood's on release.. so, yeah.. that would make 3 out of 12 a pretty good assumption of their overclockability 😉

ST4RCUTTER, thanks for that tid bit of information 🙂

damn.. I wish I was as cool as Tex, and had damn near 3000 posts and only being on here the same amount of time as me 😉 You should get yourself a job, or a life, or something and stop worrying about TRYING to be so damn superior .. but if thats your cup of tea.. Then so be it.. my hats off to ya.. 😉
 


<< hahaaaa

I love it..

So, there is a WHOPPING 3 of you guys that say your chips overclock well

Oh wow.. **clap clap**

so, I assume Intel only put about about a dozen or so of these Northwood's on release.. so, yeah.. that would make 3 out of 12 a pretty good assumption of their overclockability >>


OK, I was going to stay out of this little conversation but this is a statement made to just stay alive. You're grasping at straws man. Just about EVERY P4 Northwood owner that wants to overclock his chip has reached 2.4-2.7GHz. That's a VERY nice overclock if you ask me. Sh!t, I have a Willamette P4 and got a 200MHz+ overclock. I wouldn't expect anything less than 400MHz overclocks out of the new Northwoods. 😉 I think I see a 2.2GHz Northwood in my future. 😀
 
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