Daylight Savings Time Already??

[nageov3t]

Actually the GPS system uses relative timing for sunset data which is interesting as sunrise/sunset times are set to your precise location.

People OTOH are different and tell time by the clock so we have these silly time zones and such. Moving the clocks forward so there is more light in the evening could make sense in certain fields. Some folks even believe you get more light which I find hilarious. The photoperiod definitely is not changing!

but it's more usable light I'd rather wake up at my normal time and have more light after work than wake up early to experience a couple hours of sunlight in the am.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Really? Didn't we just do this not too long ago? Guess time just goes by fast (no pun intended).

 

[Red Squirrel]

Actually the GPS system uses relative timing for sunset data which is interesting as sunrise/sunset times are set to your precise location.

People OTOH are different and tell time by the clock so we have these silly time zones and such. Moving the clocks forward so there is more light in the evening could make sense in certain fields. Some folks even believe you get more light which I find hilarious. The photoperiod definitely is not changing!

Yeah I always find that funny. If you shift the time all you're doing is making it too dark in the morning, or dark faster at night (depending on direction it's being changed). In the end you still need to use the same amount of light, so there's no real energy savings either, which I think is the goal behind it.

It simply needs to be abolished. I'm sure if the government passed a vote 90% of people would say the same.

 

[Jeff7]

DST eats shit. If people want more afternoon light, start the day earlier. I'm tuned to the sun, and dicking around with the clocks fucks up my system.

No kidding.
It sucks enough, at least for someone who's not a natural programmer, to ensure that a digital clock can properly deal with our crazy system of time.
The count goes 12, 1, 2, 3, and so on up until 11:59, then 12 cycles around to pm, then it resumes back at 1 again. There's that, then there's months. The # of days vary, and of course for February, there's the whole crazy leap year crap. 28 days, but 29 if the year is divisible by 4, but not if it's divisible by 100.
Some very sadistic people were involved in constructing our calendar.

I just hope they stop screwing around with DST now, at least in the US. (The start/end times were changed back in 2007, as per the Energy Act of 2005.)
For simple embedded devices which automatically calculate DST, a change in the start and end days requires pulling and reprogramming chips - or of course, investing a fair amount of time to make the start and end times on the devices field-adjustable.

 

[Red Squirrel]

No kidding.
It sucks enough, at least for someone who's not a natural programmer, to ensure that a digital clock can properly deal with our crazy system of time.
The count goes 12, 1, 2, 3, and so on up until 11:59, then 12 cycles around to pm, then it resumes back at 1 again. There's that, then there's months. The # of days vary, and of course for February, there's the whole crazy leap year crap. 28 days, but 29 if the year is divisible by 4, but not if it's divisible by 100.
Some very sadistic people were involved in constructing our calendar.

I just hope they stop screwing around with DST now, at least in the US. (The start/end times were changed back in 2007, as per the Energy Act of 2005.)
For simple embedded devices which automatically calculate DST, a change in the start and end days requires pulling and reprogramming chips - or of course, investing a fair amount of time to make the start and end times on the devices field-adjustable.

To me when bush did that stupid change, he could of simply decided to abolish it instead. At least he would have done ONE thing right while in office.

 

[Rubycon]

but it's more usable light I'd rather wake up at my normal time and have more light after work than wake up early to experience a couple hours of sunlight in the am.

People in the U.S. sleep too much!

grr,.. You guys have it easy . In the past 3 weeks, I've had to adjust the clock 5 times >:O.

At least, the ship will be in this timezone for another month, until I head back to the States :disgust;

See you know what I'm sayin'

 

[DanTMWTMP]

grr,.. You guys have it easy . In the past 3 weeks, I've had to adjust the clock 5 times >:O.

At least, the ship will be in this timezone for another month, until I head back to the States :disgust;

 

[Red Squirrel]

Woah, did a time warp just occur?

 

[mugs]

Yeah I always find that funny. If you shift the time all you're doing is making it too dark in the morning, or dark faster at night (depending on direction it's being changed). In the end you still need to use the same amount of light, so there's no real energy savings either, which I think is the goal behind it.

It simply needs to be abolished. I'm sure if the government passed a vote 90% of people would say the same.

I doubt that. Though you are just moving the hours of light around in the day, that benefits everyone who have certain parts of their daily schedule fixed. i.e. people who have jobs. Splitting up the hours of daylight between pre-work and post-work diminishes their usefulness.

Example - when I was a kid I played little league baseball. Games would often run until it was nearly dark, and long games sometimes had to be cut short because of darkness. If you shifted that last hour of light back to the morning, games would have to end an hour earlier. Parents who work until 5 or 6 and have an average commute would see an hour less of the game.

I'd wager that having the extra hour in the evening benefits more people than having it in the morning. I think the only way you'd get 90% of people to vote to abolish DST is if they believed that it would result in permanently having an extra hour of light in the evening instead of just spring through fall.

 

[Jeff7]

To me when bush did that stupid change, he could of simply decided to abolish it instead. At least he would have done ONE thing right while in office.

I think it was the EPA that did it. They wanted to see if it would save energy to shift it. From what I've seen, it may have saved a small fraction of a percent of our total energy use, though that small fraction is quite a few terawatts.

Yes, ideally, individual companies, municipalities, whatever, could simply shift hours of operation to allow employees to go home earlier in the summer. Or at least somewhat ideally. It would still be a hassle to deal with though, something of a disruption to normal business routines.

In any case, you people all love your warm, sunny daylight hours, and the seasons change. One way or another, there's going to be some irritating inconvenience, at least until we invent weather control systems, or else right Earth's axis tilt, causing all kinds of fun climate issues.

I'd wager that having the extra hour in the evening benefits more people than having it in the morning. I think the only way you'd get 90% of people to vote to abolish DST is if they believed that it would result in permanently having an extra hour of light in the evening instead of just spring through fall.

Of course, if we're going to shift time like that, you might as well just shift the time zones by one notch - or else tell people to start their mornings an hour earlier.

 

[shortylickens]

Actually the GPS system uses relative timing for sunset data which is interesting as sunrise/sunset times are set to your precise location.

People OTOH are different and tell time by the clock so we have these silly time zones and such. Moving the clocks forward so there is more light in the evening could make sense in certain fields. Some folks even believe you get more light which I find hilarious. The photoperiod definitely is not changing!

http://picasaweb.google.com/shortylickens/PhotosCool#5329095951277120690

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rnldo33bFkT8X0VQYso9xw?feat=directlink

(One of them has to work)

 

[Capt Caveman]

Love DST. It will be nice having daylight til almost 7pm tomorrow.

If anything DST is becoming more popular, thus the reasoning for expanding it to earlier in the spring and later in the fall.

 

[Rubycon]

http://picasaweb.google.com/shortylickens/PhotosCool#5329095951277120690

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rnldo33bFkT8X0VQYso9xw?feat=directlink

(One of them has to work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

 

[Jeff7]

http://picasaweb.google.com/shortylickens/PhotosCool#5329095951277120690

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rnldo33bFkT8X0VQYso9xw?feat=directlink

(One of them has to work)

I feel like I've seen that before, and it was terribly painful then as well.

Or I could be remembering the pain from the Youtube video about the mysterious substance the government is putting in our water, which allows it to create rainbows in the sunlight.


Edit:.....ok, so it appears that someone has posted that exact video after I loaded this thread.

 

[Rubycon]

Asymptotic approach to DST trigger is causing timewarps in this thread only.
Wow the DJ is cuing the X-files theme as I post this. :biggrin:

I fought the coincidence and the coincidence one.

 

[Eli]

I, too, like DST.

I love having the extra light after work.

 

[Anubis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

Interesting read.

yea DST does nothing. we should just move it 30min and never change it again

 

[ElFenix]

thank fuck, i was seriously pissed that noon happened at 12:31. tomorrow it'll be at the far more natural at 1:31

 

[Jeff7]

yea DST does nothing. we should just move it 30min and never change it again

"Should array indicies start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration." - Stan kelly-Bootle

 

[amdhunter]

thank fuck, i was seriously pissed that noon happened at 12:31. tomorrow it'll be at the far more natural at 1:31

I always felt the same way. Not exactly noon, but all day the lighting just seems wrong.

All will be well tomorrow. I kinda feel bad for my dog though, his sleep patterns are closely followed to mines, and I know he will be tired as heck for the next few weeks during his morning walk.

 

[Imp]

Kick-ass, 1 hour left. The sun will not be up at 8-ish instead of 7-ish, and I get to drive home (or wait at the bus shelter in crackton) with some light.