David Kuo: Bush/Rove played Christians for suckers.

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Balt
They can propose things and support ideas they know will never happen (constitutional amendments regarding gay marriage, pro-life legislation, 10 commandments in the court house, etc) and this will actually get people to vote for them.

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And in other news, Congress passed new legislation that should save taxpayers millions of dollars. The bill saves time, space and the cost of materials in public installations by reducing the number of commandments to be included to five. The deleted commandments are:

• Thou shalt not murder.
  
• Thou shalt not steal.
  
• Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  
• Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
  
• Thou shalt not take the name of thy god in vain.

The legislation renames the document, The Five Commandments, also known as The Pentalogue, and is retroactive to the year, 1776, ensuring that no current or previous member of Congress or any administration can ever be held accountable for their actions, thus saving more money by eliminating the costs of any prosecution for violations of the former commandments.

President Bush announced that his signing statement also exempts him from personal responsiblity to adhere to the remaining five commandments.

< /sarcasm >

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Last time I checked, libs and secularists were free to engage in all kinds of wanton activities, teach these activities as normal behavior in public school, and criticize their opposition on the nightly news. Unsure how that could be happening in a Christian-dominated society.

Are you implying that Christians are not the majority in this country? Or that the majority of Christians are not intolerant like yourself?

 

[slash196]

Exploiting religion to achieve power...and people think this is a new occurrence? It's the oldest trick in the book.

 

[senseamp]

Gotta give Rove credit. For an atheist, he sure knows how to play religious nuts like a fiddle.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Gotta give Rove credit. For an atheist, he sure knows how to play religious nuts like a fiddle.

You left out the part about his gay father. That makes it even more ironic.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: senseamp
Gotta give Rove credit. For an atheist, he sure knows how to play religious nuts like a fiddle.

You left out the part about his gay father. That makes it even more ironic.

Hehe. You gotta love that. :thumbsup:

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: slash196
Exploiting religion to achieve power...and people think this is a new occurrence? It's the oldest trick in the book.

Precisely why medieval kings/queens declared that they were in close contact with god and that god selected them to rule.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: slash196
Exploiting religion to achieve power...and people think this is a new occurrence? It's the oldest trick in the book.

Precisely why medieval kings/queens declared that they were in close contact with god and that god selected them to rule.

So that's where he got the idea from!!!!!

 

[Lemon law]

In terms of the so called religious right---never has a group delivered more and been rewarded with less. GWB pays lips service to the evils of Roe v Wade---but has never promised or promoted legislation to overturn it. And sure signs of the lack of delivery occured when GWB did not even bother to consult with the religious right over the nomination of Harriet Myers.

The only thing tanagable to point to is a veto of the stem cell bill---which will be a ticking time bomb for the religious right---as the forces of science and moderenity will bypass the USA as a center for quality medicine and medical research---time will ineveitably paint the religious right as kooks and
luddites stuck in some pre-historic time---totally out of touch with reality---and because of GWB extremism---they will simply no longer have a place in rational social debate.---but short term they
have a value in votes to be exploited.--nothing more.

Worse yet---look what they did to Ralph Reed---they used his name to set Indian tribes against Indian tribes to extort money for gambling licenses---and gambling is something Reed opposes.
Sending a message that when it comes to the serious business of raising money---raising money trumps all religious principles.---and now Ralph Reed---as a direct result lost his bid to run for political office.l

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
In terms of the so called religious right---never has a group delivered more and been rewarded with less. GWB pays lips service to the evils of Roe v Wade---but has never promised or promoted legislation to overturn it. And sure signs of the lack of delivery occured when GWB did not even bother to consult with the religious right over the nomination of Harriet Myers.

The only thing tanagable to point to is a veto of the stem cell bill---which will be a ticking time bomb for the religious right---as the forces of science and moderenity will bypass the USA as a center for quality medicine and medical research---time will ineveitably paint the religious right as kooks and
luddites stuck in some pre-historic time---totally out of touch with reality---and because of GWB extremism---they will simply no longer have a place in rational social debate.---but short term they
have a value in votes to be exploited.--nothing more.

Worse yet---look what they did to Ralph Reed---they used his name to set Indian tribes against Indian tribes to extort money for gambling licenses---and gambling is something Reed opposes.
Sending a message that when it comes to the serious business of raising money---raising money trumps all religious principles.---and now Ralph Reed---as a direct result lost his bid to run for political office.l

I have no sympathy for Reed, I've been watching the beady eyed little creatin for almost 20 years.

There's a pretty large gathering of creepy people camped out in the Republican tent these days.

 

[shurato]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: LegendKillerYes, because ruining this country is so important for your goals of ultimate domination and tyrrany of the majority.

Last time I checked, libs and secularists were free to engage in all kinds of wanton activities, teach these activities as normal behavior in public school, and criticize their opposition on the nightly news. Unsure how that could be happening in a Christian-dominated society.

At any rate, back on topic. Most people will vote for their party regardless who is running. For the "independent" christians, they will vote for the party which best promotes their values, and if no party does, then they won't vote period.

You make me sick. Your type of Christians think your so f'in better than anyone else. You ever take a history class?

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: Banzai042

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: hellokeith
You liberal lefties and even the secular republicans can bash Christians all you like, but we got two conservative interpretive appointees to the Supreme Court, and possibly one more before the end of Bush' term. This alone was worth a Bush vote.

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" (Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25, NIV).


That's your boy JC talking about separation of church and state.

Roe v Wade isn't going to be overturned so it doesn't matter, you can gloat if you wish but it really doesn't change much.

Actually if you look at context that would be Jesus saying "Follow the laws of your govt (like paying taxes in this specific example) so long as it doesn't conflict with God's laws"

and how exactly is the government currently forcing you personally to disobey God's laws.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ayabe

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" (Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25, NIV).

That's your boy JC talking about separation of church and state.

LOL! No it's not. He is talking about taxes and titheing. Try reading the WHOLE passage, rather than taking something out of context!