David Hackworth says Rummy is a A**-Hole.

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Dari
Looks gay to me.

And that has what bearing on his credibility or point of view? Another stellar comment from a stellar intellectual.
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DukeFan21

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Weird, this guy used to be a regular on Fox News, and I remember him praising Rumseld and the administration.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
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He's a pretty
Distinguished solider
But I don't see much in how he suggests we fix things :(

In case you missed it, he's mainly criticizing the pre-war planning. Unless you can go back in time and fix that, I don't think you have a point...
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
/ontopic
He's a pretty
Distinguished solider
But I don't see much in how he suggests we fix things :(

In case you missed it, he's mainly criticizing the pre-war planning. Unless you can go back in time and fix that, I don't think you have a point...

No, I didn't miss that. How easy to criticize, how difficult to offer suggestions on fixing it. Of course, that wouldn't garner any publicity.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You have to excuse Dari. He didn't have a pigeon hole handy.
/offtopic
You'll have to excuse the troll, he didn't have a bridge handy.

/ontopic
He's a pretty
Distinguished solider
But I don't see much in how he suggests we fix things :(

hey look, it's Sean Penn!

I'm sorry my post went over your head, alchemize, and you figured it must be a troll. I did just what you did by remarking on somebodies post. The only difference was that while I was on target, you fell wide of the mark. Yours proved simpleminded in three ways. You were hypocritical in doing what I did but complaining about me. Your so called on topic point was empty of content and your last point was infantile and irrelevant to the thread. Other than that though it was OK. The "But I don't see how.." part of your post was excellent and you should perhaps just have left it at that.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He didn't have a pigeon hole handy.
ROFL :D

I'll have to remember that line; it's definately a rib-tickler when it's used with accuracy. :D
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You have to excuse Dari. He didn't have a pigeon hole handy.
/offtopic
You'll have to excuse the troll, he didn't have a bridge handy.

/ontopic
He's a pretty
Distinguished solider
But I don't see much in how he suggests we fix things :(
Sure, he had a long distinguished career. However, Colonel Hackworth is also both a hypocrite and a blowhard.

Once upon a time, Col. Hackworth sold himself on all us young troopers as "America's Most Decorated Soldier". That was, until he was called on wearing a Ranger tab which he neither earned nor received orders for. I believe this came out shortly after he admonished Adm. Boorda for improperly wearing a "V" device on a campaign ribbon or something like that. Col. Hackworth is one of the few, if not the only one, to draw individual awards out on a freakin' website like a cowboy's six-shooter.

Oh, he'll rant and rave about how ate up active duty forces are; how much better HIS Army was; how the Army should reintegrate Vietnam era technology back into the force structure; etc. etc. etc. If I'm not mistaken, during the ground campaign of GW2, he made a comment to the effect of "If your solution at the War College final was to go in with one heavy division, you'd flunk." Yeah, real insightful commentary coming from one who never commanded a division, let alone an armored corps. Nevermind that his last command was in 1971.

Yes sir, he'll whine and moan about "hard core" or the inherent lack thereof I should say, within the forces. But will he talk about ethics, loyalty or integrity? Nope. This is the same "gentleman", if you will, who had to hire a lawyer in order to keep his retirement pension because "they were after him".
 

Jadow

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I don't know if he's an a-hole or not, but I think that is a quality one would look for in a Secretary of DEFENSE. He should be a hard ass guy who is a namby pamby wimp.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Looks gay to me.

And that has what bearing on his credibility or point of view? Another stellar comment from a stellar intellectual.
rolleye.gif

It means he whines and bitches like any other effeminate man. This guy is an arm-chair general at best and a fair-weather former soldier at worst.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Looks gay to me.

And that has what bearing on his credibility or point of view? Another stellar comment from a stellar intellectual.
rolleye.gif

It means that Dari finds him extremely hot and wants some his lovin'.

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Looks gay to me.

And that has what bearing on his credibility or point of view? Another stellar comment from a stellar intellectual.
rolleye.gif

It means he whines and bitches like any other effeminate man. This guy is an arm-chair general at best and a fair-weather former soldier at worst.

You sound gay to me.
 

jackschmittusa

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There are both good and bad things to the Hackworth story, but I have read some of his books, and he's got a pretty good handle on soldiering and commanding troops in the field. He's also had some very good experience with bone-headed ideas from senior officers and officials who have unseen agendas. And why the hell would anybody have to have commanded an armored division in the field to have a fair understanding of such a units capabilities? You don't have to have the qualifications to run a particular unit to properly discuss what it can or cannot do.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
There are both good and bad things to the Hackworth story, but I have read some of his books, and he's got a pretty good handle on soldiering and commanding troops in the field. He's also had some very good experience with bone-headed ideas from senior officers and officials who have unseen agendas. And why the hell would anybody have to have commanded an armored division in the field to have a fair understanding of such a units capabilities? You don't have to have the qualifications to run a particular unit to properly discuss what it can or cannot do.
You are kidding, right? This armchair rhetoric comes from a guy 32 years removed from the service. The same guy trying to sell a book with every third sentence. Hell no, Hackworth can't 'properly discuss' mechanized warfare on a 21st century level. He doesn't even know WTF mechanized warfare involves.
 

freegeeks

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I like this part the most

Michelin's whole production for civilians has been stopped [at certain plants] and have dedicated their entire production to the U.S. military in Iraq -- and they can't keep up!

the evil French are making an Euro providing the US military with tires. In true patriotic style Rummy better rename the tires to "Freedom Tires"
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
There are both good and bad things to the Hackworth story, but I have read some of his books, and he's got a pretty good handle on soldiering and commanding troops in the field. He's also had some very good experience with bone-headed ideas from senior officers and officials who have unseen agendas. And why the hell would anybody have to have commanded an armored division in the field to have a fair understanding of such a units capabilities? You don't have to have the qualifications to run a particular unit to properly discuss what it can or cannot do.
You are kidding, right? This armchair rhetoric comes from a guy 32 years removed from the service. The same guy trying to sell a book with every third sentence. Hell no, Hackworth can't 'properly discuss' mechanized warfare on a 21st century level. He doesn't even know WTF mechanized warfare involves.


and I bet you can
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
There are both good and bad things to the Hackworth story, but I have read some of his books, and he's got a pretty good handle on soldiering and commanding troops in the field. He's also had some very good experience with bone-headed ideas from senior officers and officials who have unseen agendas. And why the hell would anybody have to have commanded an armored division in the field to have a fair understanding of such a units capabilities? You don't have to have the qualifications to run a particular unit to properly discuss what it can or cannot do.
You are kidding, right? This armchair rhetoric comes from a guy 32 years removed from the service. The same guy trying to sell a book with every third sentence. Hell no, Hackworth can't 'properly discuss' mechanized warfare on a 21st century level. He doesn't even know WTF mechanized warfare involves.


and I bet you can
As a matter of fact, yes, I can discuss mech warfare based on first hand experience. And you? Or are you still upset about the debate we had last week?

 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
There are both good and bad things to the Hackworth story, but I have read some of his books, and he's got a pretty good handle on soldiering and commanding troops in the field. He's also had some very good experience with bone-headed ideas from senior officers and officials who have unseen agendas. And why the hell would anybody have to have commanded an armored division in the field to have a fair understanding of such a units capabilities? You don't have to have the qualifications to run a particular unit to properly discuss what it can or cannot do.
You are kidding, right? This armchair rhetoric comes from a guy 32 years removed from the service. The same guy trying to sell a book with every third sentence. Hell no, Hackworth can't 'properly discuss' mechanized warfare on a 21st century level. He doesn't even know WTF mechanized warfare involves.


and I bet you can
As a matter of fact, yes, I can discuss mech warfare based on first hand experience. And you? Or are you still upset about the debate we had last week?


yeah, I'm sure that you are a bigger expert in the discussions of mech. warfare then a guy whose whole live evolved around the military. Why didn't I see you on television a couple of months ago to discuss military stuff. You better send your resume to Fox News. I checked and they have a position open:

"We are in search for an armchair general to discuss mech. warfare"
exprience needed: neffing on Anandtech all day
must be a true patriot

edit: and no, I don't claim to be an expert in mech. warfare, I am an expert in CS though