Dave Orton of Ati/AMD resigns
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VinDSL
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Bwahahahaha!
I love the way these companies always spin everything! Example:
Not picking a fight here, but think about it...
This Orton guy merges two giant losers into a mega-loser, gets fired, but has "mixed feelings"?!?!?!?!
Is there anybody that *thinks* this was a good idea besides Davey boy?
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
I love the way these companies always spin everything! Example:
Not picking a fight here, but think about it...
This Orton guy merges two giant losers into a mega-loser, gets fired, but has "mixed feelings"?!?!?!?!
Is there anybody that *thinks* this was a good idea besides Davey boy?
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
Originally posted by: VinDSL
Bwahahahaha!
I love the way these companies always spin everything! Example:
Not picking a fight here, but think about it...
This Orton guy merges two giant losers into a mega-loser, gets fired, but has "mixed feelings"?!?!?!?!
Is there anybody that *thinks* this was a good idea besides Davey boy?
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
Losers? Ati was leading Nvidia from 2002 to 2005 and AMD lead Intel from 2002 to 2006... I wouldnt call that a loser
as it stands right now yeah, its kind of a mega loserLead as in how? AMD never lead Intel in market share. I dont know about the others. Performance lead is nice.... but if you cannot sell it........
Of course I meant performance.. AMD had by far the better product, thats what I call lead... IT was underrated, happens all the time
Good music doesnt cease to be good just because it doesnt sell does it? Its quite the opposite actually
The main difference between Intel and AMD is that Intel is huge and can afford to lose to AMD for a couple of years and then they just come back and wallop AMD. AMD has already lost the market share they gained during the A64 glory days.
How long can they keep this up?
How long can they keep this up?
Originally posted by: rise
it gets better?
Most good bands are unknown because people just want crap mainstream pop etc, thats what I meant
Change good bands for Athlon and mainstream pop for Pentium 4
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: VinDSL
Bwahahahaha!
I love the way these companies always spin everything! Example:
Not picking a fight here, but think about it...
This Orton guy merges two giant losers into a mega-loser, gets fired, but has "mixed feelings"?!?!?!?!
Is there anybody that *thinks* this was a good idea besides Davey boy?
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
are you kidding? with his retirement OR severance package he could probably buy his OWN WalMart
he never has to work again ... unless he blew it all on gambling and women
postmortemIA
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Cookie Monster
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Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Originally posted by: VinDSL
Bwahahahaha!
I love the way these companies always spin everything! Example:
Not picking a fight here, but think about it...
This Orton guy merges two giant losers into a mega-loser, gets fired, but has "mixed feelings"?!?!?!?!
Is there anybody that *thinks* this was a good idea besides Davey boy?
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
Losers? Ati was leading Nvidia from 2002 to 2005 and AMD lead Intel from 2002 to 2006... I wouldnt call that a loser
Thats not really correct. Why do you think ATi merged with AMD if they were leading their competition for a long period of time like youve justed stated there?
The reality is that although AMD did indeed gained quite abit of market share (although it barely scratched what intel had during the netburst era) )including gaining deals with Dell, building new fabs etc they lost ALL this in one Q by intel.
For ATi, they were usually technologically superior but this always isnt =/= profit/margins etc. From what i can tell nVIDIA has had the lead economically for the past 3~4 years (it really took off during the G70 days). Its nice to see performance leaders like R520 but the reality is that nVIDIA is doing a MUCH better job as a company (note their share prices/profits/growth as a company etc through their conference meetings) than ATi did and therefore wasn't in a position where other semiconductor companies could buy them like ATi.
I also heard he left due to family reasons. (toronto <--> cali)
In my recollected history of this industry a top-level executive most typically leaves after a merger on the eve of massive impending layoffs for the work-force that he had assembled prior to the merger.
If I had to bet, my money is on the idea that Orton is leaving hot on the heels of internal discussion/plans making headway towards sizable layoffs of the ATi team.
That or his replacement will see to it as their first "innovation in action" once they are on the job.
If I had to bet, my money is on the idea that Orton is leaving hot on the heels of internal discussion/plans making headway towards sizable layoffs of the ATi team.
That or his replacement will see to it as their first "innovation in action" once they are on the job.
The problem with ATI has always been lack of advertising and, since the GeForce 6/X800 days, subpar mid-range compared to nVidia. When it comes to high-end and performance hardware, ATI has pretty much been in the lead since they launched the Radeon 9700 until nVidia launched the 8800GTX, with the exception of the brief time the 7800 was on the market by itself and the 7800GTX 512. ATi's marketing just sucked hard... nVidia dominated with the TWIMTBP program.
AMD's problems stem mainly from lack of OEM's using their processors. It is only recently that companies like Dell or Gateway have really begun using AMD processors inside their PCs. Of course, now OEMs are going to Intel because they have better performance, and using AMD mainly in low-end PCs. However, if OEMs had used AMD processors during the A64's glory days, AMD could have gained a lot more market share than they did. Instead, OEMs went pretty much exclusively to Intel, not because of performance, but because of Intel's anti-competitive practices, mainly with Dell.
n7
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The really annoying thing about AMD these days is that i could see their troubles coming well in advance.
For three damn years they milked K8 (still are), basically innovating nothing major, just doing minor improvements.
Not surprisingly, Intel realizes Banias & then Dothan have massive potential to be monsters, & those pave the road to Conroe.
Then very smartly Intel prices C2Ds extremely well, & around the same time, AMD foolishly buys ATi when they're already in trouble.
The worst thing is, i seriously do not believe there is any light at the end of the tunnel yet for AMD.
They have nothing really coming out that's going to touch Intel on the CPU front for as long as roadmaps show, & they're f*cking up the GPU front majorly as well.
Just incredibly frustrating to watch, since we need competition, not this crap we have presently, which really is only going to get a lot worse before it gets better...that's assuming it even can...
I seriously dunno how they are going to survive, since they are far behind on the CPU & GPU front...
I seriously hope they can pull off some miracle, because they really will need it
For three damn years they milked K8 (still are), basically innovating nothing major, just doing minor improvements.
Not surprisingly, Intel realizes Banias & then Dothan have massive potential to be monsters, & those pave the road to Conroe.
Then very smartly Intel prices C2Ds extremely well, & around the same time, AMD foolishly buys ATi when they're already in trouble.
The worst thing is, i seriously do not believe there is any light at the end of the tunnel yet for AMD.
They have nothing really coming out that's going to touch Intel on the CPU front for as long as roadmaps show, & they're f*cking up the GPU front majorly as well.
Just incredibly frustrating to watch, since we need competition, not this crap we have presently, which really is only going to get a lot worse before it gets better...that's assuming it even can...
I seriously dunno how they are going to survive, since they are far behind on the CPU & GPU front...
I seriously hope they can pull off some miracle, because they really will need it
Wreckage
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I my humble opinion...
Even if the 2900 series had an ultra successful launch that put NVIDIA out of business, Orton would be gone. His job was done as soon as the merger was complete. I'm sure he made a tidy profit and AMD already has an established command structure. This is not a surprise and is barely news.
Even if the 2900 series had an ultra successful launch that put NVIDIA out of business, Orton would be gone. His job was done as soon as the merger was complete. I'm sure he made a tidy profit and AMD already has an established command structure. This is not a surprise and is barely news.
Keysplayr
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Don't forget the nice severance package he'll be getting. Too many cooks in the kitchen is never a good idea anyway. With Orton gone, which is something the entire board of directors made happen, it's that much less expended energy dealing with him and how things are done. AMD will make a comeback within the next few years if they can just hold on. K11/R700. We hope. We need. We prey. hehe.
Originally posted by: VinDSL
Oh, well, enjoy greeting the customers at WalMart...
Are you kidding me? You know how much $$ they must've paid him to leave?
bryanW1995
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He actually has 2 replacements. Hopefully he will hurry up and found a company that builds a solid, $200 dx10 video card.
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