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josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Whatever you reckon Geo. More like the fanatic majority didn't like me, and I stuck it up them every bit as much as they stuck it up nvidia. Something I'll continue to do no matter where I post, and fanatics like you, joker baumann and DW will never stop me until the fanatics and ATi stop attacking nvidia.

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Some people take things too seriously......

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

...I was banned for challenging Daves assertions on the DX9 specification, shader replacement and partial precsion and being right every single time.

Coming from someone who said that the 7 series GPU's can do HDR + AA in Far Cry through nHancer, I'm sure that you were indeed right "every single time".

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
...Feel free to link to whatever you think supports you claims...
QFT
 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Whatever you reckon Geo. More like the fanatic majority didn't like me, and I stuck it up them every bit as much as they stuck it up nvidia. Something I'll continue to do no matter where I post, and fanatics like you, joker baumann and DW will never stop me until the fanatics and ATi stop attacking nvidia.

:roll:

Some people take things too seriously......

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

...I was banned for challenging Daves assertions on the DX9 specification, shader replacement and partial precsion and being right every single time.

Coming from someone who said that the 7 series GPU's can do HDR + AA in Far Cry through nHancer, I'm sure that you were indeed right "every single time".

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
...Feel free to link to whatever you think supports you claims...
QFT

Do your own research, I certainly won't do it for you!

You'll find when you do your research that my claims were backed up by the specifiactions and documentation...

when geo says
you could never let a topic go after it'd been talked to death by all sides and everyone had had much more than a fair chance to present their thinking on it
what he actually means is all the fanatics thought that they knew the facts relating to a certain situation, and that information contradicting their understanding is/was not welcomed, since it didn't fit their pro ati world view... (in other words the fanatics hate being proven wrong, especially when it makes nvidia look good/better or ati look worse...)
 

Gstanfor

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post went to wrong thread.

Josh, there is an archival forum at beyond3d. There is also an easy to use search function. Have fun.
 

josh6079

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I would provide my own research if ever I were to accuse someone of being a fanATIc or Nvidiot. You have made the bold claim that he was a fanATIc and that his reviews were biased; therefore, it shouldn't be an act of Congress for you to support your opinion.

The point is, you seem to be one of the only ones here who can see how he would hide his agendas in his reveiws so I'm merely asking you to educate me in this sharp perception of yours.

Judging from what I've seen you try to conjure up, (HDR + AA with Nvidia in Far Cry) I'm interested in seeing what knowledge you threw at David.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
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when geo says
you could never let a topic go after it'd been talked to death by all sides and everyone had had much more than a fair chance to present their thinking on it
what he actually means is all the fanatics thought that they knew the facts relating to a certain situation, and that information contrading their understanding is/was not welcomed, since it didn't fit their world view... (in other words the fanatics hate being proven wrong, especially when it makes nvidia look good/better or ati look worse...)

You can flip that really easy you know : In other words the Nvididiots hate being proven wrong, especially when it makes ATI look good/better or Nvidia look worse. Fanboys are Fanboys.

Even if Dave Baumann was bent towards ATI in the forums, that was his right, as a forum is a place to express your opinion (yes that means it's your right also to post your opinion), but the fact that he posted some good unbiased reviews just shows that he knew how to handle himself professionally. Which is more than I can say for you. But like you said you will never stop this jihad untill ATI is bowing down to Nvidia. Good luck with that.
 

Gstanfor

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But like you said you will never stop this jihad untill ATI is bowing down to Nvidia. Good luck with that.
No, thats NOT what I said!
...until the fanatics and ATi stop attacking nvidia
IS what I said, and there is a very large difference between the two statements. Not my fault you can't figure out the difference...
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
But like you said you will never stop this jihad untill ATI is bowing down to Nvidia. Good luck with that.
No, thats NOT what I said!
...until the fanatics and ATi stop attacking nvidia
IS what I said, and there is a very large difference between the two statements. Not my fault you can't figure out the difference...

Might as well have said that. You expect ATI to stop attacking Nvidia? They are two battling companies what do you want them to do hold hands? ATI will stop when Nvidia goes under and Nvidia will stop when ATI goes under. Untill then I wouldn't hold my breath. Take a chill pill man it is too early in the morning to be this angry about video cards.
 

Gstanfor

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No I might not as well have said it! I never meant what I said the way you are trying make it appear!

I expect ATi to act like a reputable company and not a bunch of highschool kids in the playground. Their conduct towards their competitors has been reprehensible since 2002 (and none too good before then). There is no need whatsoever for them to act the way that they do.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
No I might not as well have said it! I never meant what I said the way you are trying make it appear!

I expect ATi to act like a reputable company and not a bunch of highschool kids in the playground. Their conduct towards their competitors has been reprehensible since 2002 (and none too good before then). There is no need whatsoever for them to act the way that they do.

I know I agree with you so much! I absolutly hate how ATI uses AEG to spread FUD around the forums .....errrrr ohh wait who uses AEG?
 

mancunian

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Here's an idea, why don't all of you kidz go and support a football team instead of a chip manufacturer?

 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
No I might not as well have said it! I never meant what I said the way you are trying make it appear!

I expect ATi to act like a reputable company and not a bunch of highschool kids in the playground. Their conduct towards their competitors has been reprehensible since 2002 (and none too good before then). There is no need whatsoever for them to act the way that they do.

I know I agree with you so much! I absolutly hate how ATI uses AEG to spread FUD around the forums .....errrrr ohh wait who uses AEG?

Perhaps you missed the thread on ATi's viral marketing campaign...
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Shamrock
Now you cant even mention NVidia over there at all, not just badmouth it.

So, is Dave the ultimate Viral marketer? LOL


Another lie. You can say what you want about NV, or ATi at B3D. Ive been very critical of both, and nothing has happened. And for the record, there at least two people who are in the AEG program who post regularly over there.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Here's an idea, why don't all of you kidz go and support a football team instead of a chip manufacturer?

because I am a nerd and don't like football. I actually like Nvidia and ATI pretty equally just not so much at the same time. I liked Nvidia during the g70 partly because ATI kept putting off and putting off the x1800, and now I like ATI because they have a great chip that brings alot to the table, whereas Nvidia just stuck with what they had last year just increased the clocks. I just think fanboys are funny.
 

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Shamrock
Now you cant even mention NVidia over there at all, not just badmouth it.

So, is Dave the ultimate Viral marketer? LOL


Another lie. You can say what you want about NV, or ATi at B3D. Ive been very critical of both, and nothing has happened. And for the record, there at least two people who are in the AEG program who post regularly over there.


3 actually, Chalnoth, Ailuros & ChrisRay. All of them post factual, accurate information. Rollo was the exception that proved the rule. Rollo also "forced" his way into AEG through knowing a nvidia employee. We know about the three I mentioned because they admitted it of their own accord in the forums.
 

Ackmed

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I said at least two, I thought more, but couldnt recall off the top of my head. Chalnoth is the only one I have had a problem with in the past. Although, he has calmed down a lot, and is much less rolloish now days. It was an overnight change it seemed, I guess he took AEG seriously, and didnt want to give it a bad name, or give away he was in it. Chrisday is very on top of it, and actually help out a lot. Something someone in the AEG program should do. A "role model" if you will.

They admitted it, after it came out, and speculation was all around. Otherwise, I doubt they would have. Not exactly of their own accord to me, but pretty close.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
No I might not as well have said it! I never meant what I said the way you are trying make it appear!

I expect ATi to act like a reputable company and not a bunch of highschool kids in the playground. Their conduct towards their competitors has been reprehensible since 2002 (and none too good before then). There is no need whatsoever for them to act the way that they do.

I know I agree with you so much! I absolutly hate how ATI uses AEG to spread FUD around the forums .....errrrr ohh wait who uses AEG?

Perhaps you missed the thread on ATi's viral marketing campaign...

I saw it, posted in it also .... I don't like the fact that ATI uses viral marketing. I even wrote the consumerist and told them about ATI's use of viral marketing. However it is just buisness and you need to realise that Nvidia is just as bad as ATI when it comes down to it. Bottom line the one thing companies care about is if you care enough to buy there product. If we all wanted 50mhz gpus and 16mbs of memory still then that is what they would give us, and they would be charging us $400-$500 for it too.
 

BFG10K

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor

I was banned for challenging Daves assertions on the DX9 specification, shader replacement and partial precsion and being right every single time.
Based on your antics in this forum alone I find that very hard to believe.
 

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor

3 actually, Chalnoth, Ailuros & ChrisRay. All of them post factual, accurate information. Rollo was the exception that proved the rule. Rollo also "forced" his way into AEG through knowing a nvidia employee. We know about the three I mentioned because they admitted it of their own accord in the forums.


This would be the same Chalnoth who has more than 10k posts over 4 years, a very healthy reputation, and will cheerfully step up when he feels someone has misrepresented NV, particularly technically? And where did all that reputation come from, radar? It could only come from other members. So Chal doesn't really help your case, does he, radar? Pretty much shows your problems were YOUR problems. Dude, you're so obsessive/compulsive that for weeks after you'd been banned we were seeing posts from other members with "Greg just IM'ed me on this one, and he wants me to say. . . ".
 

Gstanfor

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I did ask chalnoth and one other member to post info for me (which they did)once because of fanatic propaganda in the fast14 thread to point out that nvidia was already using mathematica cell math, and once in response to fanatic AA claims ati vs nvidia where I pointed out how to enable 16x AA and provided example pics. I certainly never made the requests via IM because I don't actually use any IM programs, so thats how much you know (it was via email both times)...

I was banned well before the reputation system ever came into effect (almost a year before actually). BTW the whole reputation thing is retarded IMO, but I guess its great for those who love to stroke and strut their ego (you'd know something about that given your reputation and your posts wouldn't you?)
 

geo1

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Well, the rep system certainly sucks for those like yourself who like to claim that a pro-greenie must be a hunted animal at B3D, with Chalnoth and Uttar in the top 10. But you just keep telling yourself whatever you need to, Greg.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: Gstanfor

...I was banned for challenging Daves assertions on the DX9 specification, shader replacement and partial precsion and being right every single time.

Coming from someone who said that the 7 series GPU's can do HDR + AA in Far Cry through nHancer, I'm sure that you were indeed right "every single time".

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
...Feel free to link to whatever you think supports you claims...
QFT

Haha exactly. I was thinking the same thing. If what you "proved" here at AT (supposed SSAA + FP16HDR) was as wrong as what you proved over at B3D then no wonder you got banned.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I expect ATi to act like a reputable company and not a bunch of highschool kids in the playground. Their conduct towards their competitors has been reprehensible since 2002 (and none too good before then). There is no need whatsoever for them to act the way that they do.

Are you talking about those slides that are released by the marketing teams of BOTH companies as soon as a product is released by the other??

And you hate ATI for acting like "a bunch of highschool kids"(where in the world did they do this??)?? And what makes NVidia so much better??

You know what I find odd, that you haven't posted much in video lately and as soon as this thread came up, you've posted more than anyone else in it. I highly doubt you'd support ATI even if they weren't acting like "a bunch of highschool kids".