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Daughter Accused of Using AI on Assignment

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nakedfrog said:
My son is currently in college, he said it looks like handwritten exams/assignments seem to be making a comeback. And at least in his circles (nerds) they're making fun of people who use AI.
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- Yeah, I've heard that the inverted class structure, where students complete tests and homework in class, but attend pre-recorded lectures at home, is being strongly considered to eliminate blatant AI copy pasting
 
Wait so when students use AI they're literally just copy and pasting the entire assignment instructions into it too?! I knew it was bad effort to use AI but I figured they were at least TRYING somewhat, by typing out their own prompt!
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/comments/1pjo0c8/therapy_eye_contact_and_autism

I put this reddit post through zeroGPT. It came back with a result of about 59% AI generated. ZeroGPT said only the first sentence was not AI-made.

You be the judge. I find it hard to believe that's really AI.

So, without the actual writing sample of the daughter...and perhaps "computer monitoring software" of her website forays, she's stuck in a messy situation where the "tentative judgment" is against her.
 
Forgot to update this thread. Apparently she got an email from the instructor that something like 75% of the class was flagged for using AI on the assignment. Rather than give everyone flagged 0s, she gave everyone flagged 50% instead, because, *gasp*, surely 75% couldn't have used AI. W/e. She's done with the class tomorrow or early next week. She sent her an email asking how she can avoid this situation for her final but is still waiting for a response.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Forgot to update this thread. Apparently she got an email from the instructor that something like 75% of the class was flagged for using AI on the assignment. Rather than give everyone flagged 0s, she gave everyone flagged 50% instead, because, *gasp*, surely 75% couldn't have used AI. W/e. She's done with the class tomorrow or early next week. She sent her an email asking how she can avoid this situation for her final but is still waiting for a response.
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That's still such a horseshit thing to do given the poor abilities of these checking tools.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Forgot to update this thread. Apparently she got an email from the instructor that something like 75% of the class was flagged for using AI on the assignment. Rather than give everyone flagged 0s, she gave everyone flagged 50% instead, because, *gasp*, surely 75% couldn't have used AI.
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At face value, that's some flawless logic right there! <slow clap>

IMO there's an internal politics element going on here. Maybe something like the teachers are being told to use AI tools to ferret out AI use, but also teachers are told that they're going to encounter problems if that many students are given 0s for their work.
 
Ultimately, rebutting a presumption requires evidence. So, setup a recording setup in your daughter's room, and also tell her to screen record her work.

That way, uncertainty is eliminated and you can prove a case in the future.
 
mikeymikec said:
At face value, that's some flawless logic right there! <slow clap>

IMO there's an internal politics element going on here. Maybe something like the teachers are being told to use AI tools to ferret out AI use, but also teachers are told that they're going to encounter problems if that many students are given 0s for their work.
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It's actually not technically irrational when things are unknown. Evidence can be weak but not enough to make the evidence self-disqualifying. The judgment is based on incomplete information.
 
Torn Mind said:
It's actually not technically irrational when things are unknown. Evidence can be weak but not enough to make the evidence self-disqualifying. The judgment is based on incomplete information.
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Teaching and assessing isn't meant to be a gamble. You either have determined that a student knows their stuff or you haven't. In this case, the teacher hasn't.
 
Torn Mind said:
Ultimately, rebutting a presumption requires evidence. So, setup a recording setup in your daughter's room, and also tell her to screen record her work.

That way, uncertainty is eliminated and you can prove a case in the future.
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This is probably going to be the best way to provide evidence if the accusation occurs again.
 
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