Data vs Terminator

[brainhulk]

Rules:
Data has a phaser
Terminator Arnold has a Ar10 with m203 grenade launcher and a shotgun

Rnd 1: with weapons and morality turned on for both

Rnd 2: with weapons morality turned off

Rnd 3: hand to hand combat morality turned off

Who wins in their silver prime?

 

[IronWing]

Who wins in their silver prime?

 

[mikeymikec]

What's the environment?

If it's the Enterprise, then Data imitates the captain's voice and turns all of the ship's systems against the Terminator.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Is this a T800 with the ability to learn disabled, or enabled?

Edit: it doesn't matter. Data will be able to instantly disintegrate the T800 with his phaser. He might not do it at first until he realizes the Terminator is an otherwise "unstoppable" killing machine.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

Whichever one has the phone number to call Chuck Norris and ask for help wins.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Environment is huge here.

Are they in a giant empty room? Terminator will destroy data with the launcher before Data comes to the conclusion that T-800 cannot be reasoned with and is a killing machine.

A more nuanced environment would allow Data to try to reason, then vaporize the T-800.

If there are innocent bystanders that T-800 is taking out to get to Data, then Data would fry his ass ASAP.

 

[mikeymikec]

Does Data have the Varon-T Disruptor?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I mean, if Data is even in communication range of a federation ship, he could order them to beam T-800 into space. Or a foot above the nearest open pit of molten metal.

A better fit might be T-800 vs a Borg drone.

 

[mikeymikec]

A better fit might be T-800 vs a Borg drone.

Considering the first drone falls easily, it might be worth saying 10 Terminators vs. 10 Borg drones.

 

[K1052]

Star Trek handheld energy weapons are redic powerful. Even a handheld phaser can vaporize a small building with ease. They just never show this happening because it's kinda un-Star Trek. Data himself makes this point in "The Ensigns of Command".

 

[K1052]

Considering the first drone falls easily, it might be worth saying 10 Terminators vs. 10 Borg drones.

The collective would adapt by like the 3rd dead drone and shut down the Terminators.

 

[Iron Woode]

in hand to hand combat Data will lose badly. The CSM101 Terminator has a hyper-alloy combat chassis, very tough. The terminator is a purpose built android and is optimized for that function. Data wasn't designed for combat.

 

[Captante]

Data has a phaser

Data wins.

in hand to hand combat Data will lose badly

See my previous quote.

 

[Iron Woode]

Data wins.





See my previous quote.

see part 3 of the 3 part question in OP.

 

[Captante]

in hand to hand combat Data will lose badly

Whoops my bad ... Data wins 1 & 2 at least!

 

[snoopy7548]

Data would definitely win...

 

[TheELF]

What's the environment?

If it's the Enterprise, then Data imitates the captain's voice and turns all of the ship's systems against the Terminator.

You never saw any star trek, right?!
There are zero security measures on board except for the red shirts.
Nothing is being monitored and nowhere is restricted.
The only thing with a security password is the self destruct.
Also Data should have enough access to do this without having to imitate the captain.

 

[ultimatebob]

What's the environment?

If it's the Enterprise, then Data imitates the captain's voice and turns all of the ship's systems against the Terminator.

The Terminator has the ability to emulate voices as well. Maybe HE would imitate the captain and beam Data into a star to vaporize him.

Personally, I'm giving the win to Arnold for both rounds 1 and 3. Data would try to reason with him, and Arnold would turn him into trash before you could say Hasta La Vista, baby.

 

[ElFenix]

 

[Midwayman]

I mean terminator is near future tech. Data is hundreds of years in the future. I'm not sure the terminator would be able to do anything. More interesting would be Data vs IG-88. Star wars has far higher theoretic energy densities according to cannon.

 

[Kaido]

Data vs Terminator

Now THIS is the kind of quality content I'm looking for in ATOT discussion threads.

I wanna say Arnold right off the bat, but Data is pretty dang smart, especially post-Borg.

 

[sdifox]

Says a moderator on a tech forum :whistle:

 

[TheELF]

I mean terminator is near future tech. Data is hundreds of years in the future. I'm not sure the terminator would be able to do anything. More interesting would be Data vs IG-88. Star wars has far higher theoretic energy densities according to cannon.

The time in terminator is screwed up anyway,somehow they went from the very basic drones from the end of t3 to arnold all in the lifetime of john connor,and not even life time but from tween to like 40 something maybe 50 years old,and all while the earth was nuked so they did that without any resources...
and if we count salvation then they did it in a week or something.

 

[Iron Woode]

Now THIS is the kind of quality content I'm looking for in ATOT discussion threads.

I wanna say Arnold right off the bat, but Data is pretty dang smart, especially post-Borg.

hmm...

All right, listen. The Terminator's an infiltration unit: part man, part machine. Underneath, it's a hyperalloy combat chassis, microprocessor-controlled. Fully armored; very tough. But outside, it's living human tissue: flesh, skin, hair, blood - grown for the cyborgs.

Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!

 

[EliteRetard]

Rules:
Data has a phaser
Terminator Arnold has a Ar10 with m203 grenade launcher and a shotgun

Rnd 1: with weapons and morality turned on for both

Rnd 2: with weapons morality turned off

Rnd 3: hand to hand combat morality turned off

Who wins in their silver prime?

Most civilians vastly overestimate the power of grenades (of all types).
Here's a video showing what an M203 can really do:

We already know that Data is immune to hand held projectile weapons, and I expect he would easily be immune to even a direct hit from an M203 as well. Considering how vastly more powerful a phaser is, I would easily give the win to Data for the weapon rounds.

As for hand to hand, Data has been shown to be fast (40+ MPH) and extremely nimble (far more than a human) and canon says he has mastered all fighting/combat styles. The terminators have not been shown to be anywhere near as fast or nimble (T800 burst speed up to 22mph). As for strength, Data was shown to easily bend a sci-fi metal bar at 40 kilobars (~580,000 PSI) far more than enough force to literally crush graphite into diamond in his hand. We see that the Terminator is eliminated by a hydraulic press in the first movie, canon suggests it was a 1,000 ton unit and divided by the size of it's upper torso (about 24" x 36") that works out to around 2,600 PSI (0.18 kilobar). We also see that they can lose limbs and be torn apart in fairly simple scenarios. As seen on screen, terminators can be heavily damaged/destroyed by pipe bombs, 50 caliber weapons, even damaged with pry-bars etc.

Based on this, I don't think a T800 type terminator would stand the slightest chance of winning vs Data. He could easily outpace and outmaneuver a terminator and literally very easily tear it apart. With the demonstrated (not even maximum) power Data has, he could literally crumple a T800 into a ball as easily as we crumple a sheet of paper.