Darn it, have to go to traffic school now!

[dethman]

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I don't over drive my headlights

You've lost all credibility with that statement.

With high beams, you can see about 350 feet in front of you - in the optimum situation, where the road ahead is straight and level.

To stop your car, you have to (1) see something and decide to brake; (2) move your foot to the brake; and then (3) stop the car.

Step 1 is considered to be about 0.25 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.2 seconds.

Step 2 takes about 0.5 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.375 seconds.

Total reaction time for you = 0.575 seconds, compared to 0.75 for the average driver. We'll say you are 25% faster than the average driver.

Step 3, how long your car takes to stop, at 0.9g braking force, on a dry road, with good brakes and tires, is 5.1 seconds. But your car is better than average, so let's say you need 10% less distance.

Now that we've established you're a superior driver with a superior car, let's do the math.

For you to stop your car while going 100mph, counting all three steps, takes 422 feet in the best possible circumstances.
The distance you can see with your high beams is 350 feet in the best possible circumstances.

You are outdriving your headlights. But if I have still underestimated your superior driving skills and car's stopping ability, feel free to correct me.

and bam OP gets owned for ignorance. seriously the reason people in high end cars get into accidents is because they THINK they or their car are capable of something it's just not. like stopping for a deer in the road in the middle of the night at 100mph. good luck with that. and contrary to what you 'thought' there are plenty of animals who are out and about in the middle of the night in PA.

next thread: oh my god my mustang looks like this what do i do?!?!?! 😛

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I don't over drive my headlights

You've lost all credibility with that statement.

With high beams, you can see about 350 feet in front of you - in the optimum situation, where the road ahead is straight and level.

To stop your car, you have to (1) see something and decide to brake; (2) move your foot to the brake; and then (3) stop the car.

Step 1 is considered to be about 0.25 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.2 seconds.

Step 2 takes about 0.5 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.375 seconds.

Total reaction time for you = 0.575 seconds, compared to 0.75 for the average driver. We'll say you are 25% faster than the average driver.

Step 3, how long your car takes to stop, at 0.9g braking force, on a dry road, with good brakes and tires, is 5.1 seconds. But your car is better than average, so let's say you need 10% less distance.

Now that we've established you're a superior driver with a superior car, let's do the math.

For you to stop your car while going 100mph, counting all three steps, takes 422 feet in the best possible circumstances.
The distance you can see with your high beams is 350 feet in the best possible circumstances.

You are outdriving your headlights. But if I have still underestimated your superior driving skills and car's stopping ability, feel free to correct me.

Um wow... talk about pulling figures out of your ass and taking something extremely complicated and pretending it's simple. Try reading this research paper for just a small taste of the complexity -- Text

BTW, modern headlight high beams have a sight distance of 500 feet or more. However, so many other factors are involved (driver eyesight, weather conditions, etc etc) combined with driver skill, alertness, and fatigue factors plus vehicle condition and equipment factors that to pretend you can make it into something simple and general for everyone is just ridiculous.

 

[kranky]

Vic, I generally respect what you have to say, but if you believe I pulled numbers out of my rear, you're sadly mistaken.

I used the spreadsheet on the safespeed.org.uk site, which takes the position that safe driving can be achieved without arbitrarily low speed limits, a position I suspect the OP agrees with.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: dethman

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I don't over drive my headlights

You've lost all credibility with that statement.

With high beams, you can see about 350 feet in front of you - in the optimum situation, where the road ahead is straight and level.

To stop your car, you have to (1) see something and decide to brake; (2) move your foot to the brake; and then (3) stop the car.

Step 1 is considered to be about 0.25 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.2 seconds.

Step 2 takes about 0.5 seconds. But you're very skilled, so you do it in 0.375 seconds.

Total reaction time for you = 0.575 seconds, compared to 0.75 for the average driver. We'll say you are 25% faster than the average driver.

Step 3, how long your car takes to stop, at 0.9g braking force, on a dry road, with good brakes and tires, is 5.1 seconds. But your car is better than average, so let's say you need 10% less distance.

Now that we've established you're a superior driver with a superior car, let's do the math.

For you to stop your car while going 100mph, counting all three steps, takes 422 feet in the best possible circumstances.
The distance you can see with your high beams is 350 feet in the best possible circumstances.

You are outdriving your headlights. But if I have still underestimated your superior driving skills and car's stopping ability, feel free to correct me.

and bam OP gets owned for ignorance. seriously the reason people in high end cars get into accidents is because they THINK they or their car are capable of something it's just not. like stopping for a deer in the road in the middle of the night at 100mph. good luck with that. and contrary to what you 'thought' there are plenty of animals who are out and about in the middle of the night in PA.

next thread: oh my god my mustang looks like this what do i do?!?!?! 😛

Or there won't be any more threads from him.

Anyway, SVT, you are getting plenty of warning from the authorities to slow down. Please do or suffer the consequences.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: kranky
Vic, I generally respect what you have to say, but if you believe I pulled numbers out of my rear, you're sadly mistaken.

I used the spreadsheet on the safespeed.org.uk site, which takes the position that safe driving can be achieved without arbitrarily low speed limits, a position I suspect the OP agrees with.

Let's just say I think it's overly generalized. And yes, of course, safe driving can be achieved without arbitrarily low speed limits, but that's because those speed limits are also overly generalized, i.e. they dictate the safest speed for the least safe but still legal vehicle (and/or driver) on the road.
So if you're nearly blind, have slow reactions times, in poor health, are a poor driver, and/or drive a poor condition strugglebuggy with bad tires, you sure as hell should be driving at the limit and no more. And keep to the freakin' right lane too.
But was the OP's 100 mph adventure a little excessive? Perhaps, but that depends on the conditions and (quite frankly) we weren't there. Given a straight stretch of limited-access freeway and good weather, the worst he should he hit even if he was overdriving his headlights in the dark would be a deer, and that's his own problem. I can't speak for his actual skill as a driver either (though I would suspect it's above average). His vehicle is certainly up to the task though -- this wouldn't be anything like taking your Camry with its soft suspension and 80k mile "touring" tires to 100 though.

 

[SVT Cobra]

I agree it was excessive, but it was far from reckless.

And, no I will continue to keep discussing this because I fail to see how I have been owned. There is a certain type of "culture" out there that would see nothing wrong with what I did, and that is the extent of it. I will stay in the left lane and you continue to drive in the right or middle or however many lanes there are. Once again speeding is not dangerous, reckless speeding is, and quite frankly I was not being reckless. If you have ever been on Rt1 you will know that there are no animals on the road at that time in the winter when it was 35 degrees out (this seems to be the popular agruement). It is all mushroom farms, and not a deer in site.

Also I do have properly installed HID's. Not top of the line that give max distances, but they illuminate a lot farthur than your usual lamps. Either way if there was a deer, yeah I would have hit it, but I took my chances.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Crono
If you can't do the time...

Umm I am going to "do the time", just curious what everyone elses exeperiences have been, or how many people have had to go.

 

[BoomerD]

Traffic school is a boring way to spend a Saturday, but it does keep the ticket off your record...


I'm not one of the "slow drivers must keep right" on the road. I generally drive between 5-10 over the posted limit. HOWEVER, I HAVE been known "on occasion" to get my Bimmers out and open them up . I used to drive I580 to work in the bay area. MOST days, traffic runs about 70-75. (this is at 4-4:30 a.m.) On Saturday, that stretch of freeway is nearly empty, and there were many mornings when I'd get up to 100-110...then back back down to 75....A well maintained vehicle that was made to drive fast is not dangerous to drive fast...it's drivers who don't know how to drive that are...