Daniel Pearl's wife denied compensation from 911 fund.

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LinkWhy is this news? I don't think that marines dying in Afghanistan have access to the fund for their widows either; why is it even up for question?

Kenneth Feinberg, special master of the fund, said he denied the application about three weeks ago because it did not meet the government's stipulation that victims had to have died in New York, Pennsylvania or Washington as a result of the September 11 attack.

 

[AntaresVI]

The point of the "news" media is to rile the public.

 

[DrNoobie]

Um...did he die in the 9/11 attacks, no. Then this isn't that surprising.

 

[MBony]

Its sad, but like DrNoobie said, not surprising.

 

[Mallow]

1,800 pay outs averaging 1.4million have been payed out! WTF!!! Does this sound insane to anyone else? Does everyone who has a loved one die via terrorism get 1.4mill now? I know this is harsh but none of them should be getting any money... pay for funerals maybe... but this is insane.

 

[DrNoobie]

Originally posted by: MBony
Its sad, but like DrNoobie said, not surprising.

Why's it sad? How does money help one get over death? Money and death are not interrelated, and this compensation crap is moronic. It's sad when someone dies, I see it everyday, but money doesn't help the pain.

 

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Originally posted by: Mallow
1,800 pay outs averaging 1.4million have been payed out! WTF!!! Does this sound insane to anyone else? Does everyone who has a loved one die via terrorism get 1.4mill now? I know this is harsh but none of them should be getting any money... pay for funerals maybe... but this is insane.

It's not just insane, it's fvcking bonkers. I mean how much does the average widow of a fireman or policeman get? And to say it's just money is silly because money represents work - work such as hiring more police, more intelligence people, etc. Yeah it's sucks, but only because of the high visibility of 9/11 are these victims getting so much - there are millions of other people who have died without anything to their families.

 

[MBony]

Originally posted by: DrNoobie

Originally posted by: MBony
Its sad, but like DrNoobie said, not surprising.

Why's it sad? How does money help one get over death? Money and death are not interrelated, and this compensation crap is moronic. It's sad when someone dies, I see it everyday, but money doesn't help the pain.

I was only saying that it was sad because of how he died.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: Mallow
1,800 pay outs averaging 1.4million have been payed out!

:Q

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Mallow
1,800 pay outs averaging 1.4million have been payed out! WTF!!! Does this sound insane to anyone else? Does everyone who has a loved one die via terrorism get 1.4mill now? I know this is harsh but none of them should be getting any money... pay for funerals maybe... but this is insane.

while the police and firefighters are true heroes there is NO FVUCKING WAY they should get 1.4 million each. NOT to mention some were complaining about even getting that and wanted MORE! WTF!

I lost all respect for the families. screw them.

 

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Mallow
1,800 pay outs averaging 1.4million have been payed out! WTF!!! Does this sound insane to anyone else? Does everyone who has a loved one die via terrorism get 1.4mill now? I know this is harsh but none of them should be getting any money... pay for funerals maybe... but this is insane.

while the police and firefighters are true heroes there is NO FVUCKING WAY they should get 1.4 million each. NOT to mention some were complaining about even getting that and wanted MORE! WTF!

I lost all respect for the families. screw them.

remember, it's not the people who died who deserve admiration - they deserve sympathy, as do their families. but the people who did something - the pennsylvania flight, or the firefighters and policement - those are the people who deserve respect.

 

[Anubis]

good, no one shoudl be getting any money, that money should be being used for something like education

 

[waggy]

what really pisses me off is that the men and women in the armed forces that die in this war on terror get JACK SH!T. But the families get 1.4 million plus a bunch of other crap. Some were even sueing to get more money.

Yeah thats a way to honor the memmory of those that died. Bitch and complain because 1.4 million is not enough. bah

 

[warcrow]

Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Um...did he die in the 9/11 attacks, no. Then this isn't that surprising.

Good point!

 

[Parrotheader]

I don't agree with the payouts either, but I'm assuming the government was thinking that if they didn't step in and offer up something in the case of 9/11 that the entire airline industry (not just the specific airlines involved, but many other companies and agencies affiliated with them) was going to be sued into oblivion.

 

[Grey]

Also the donations that poured in from the 9/11 incident were in the hundreds of millions. What else are they going to do with the money? If it is spent on commercial gains there would be hell to pay.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Um...did he die in the 9/11 attacks, no. Then this isn't that surprising.

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: Parrotheader
I don't agree with the payouts either, but I'm assuming the government was thinking that if they didn't step in and offer up something in the case of 9/11 that the entire airline industry (not just the specific airlines involved, but many other companies and agencies affiliated with them) was going to be sued into oblivion.

The 911 compensation fund was created explicitly as an alternative to the virtual Tsunami of lawsuits that every civil liability and tort attorney in the whole of the United States would have filed with two-fisted fury in hopes of enriching themselves from a national and international tragedy, had such lawsuits not been prohibited by an act of Congress.

The fund was not created to compensate families for their loss, but to compensate them for enjoining their right to pursue compensation for their loss and punative action through the courts. This way, victims who actually suffered a loss get what they might reasonably expect to have recovered from a lawsuit, but no lawyers get rich off the suffering of others.

An all-around admirable solution if you ask me.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Originally posted by: Parrotheader
I don't agree with the payouts either, but I'm assuming the government was thinking that if they didn't step in and offer up something in the case of 9/11 that the entire airline industry (not just the specific airlines involved, but many other companies and agencies affiliated with them) was going to be sued into oblivion.

The 911 compensation fund was created explicitly as an alternative to the virtual Tsunami of lawsuits that every civil liability and tort attorney in the whole of the United States would have filed with two-fisted fury in hopes of enriching themselves from a national and international tragedy, had such lawsuits not been prohibited by an act of Congress.

The fund was not created to compensate families for their loss, but to compensate them for enjoining their right to pursue compensation for their loss and punative action through the courts. This way, victims who actually suffered a loss get what they might reasonably expect to have recovered from a lawsuit, but no lawyers get rich off the suffering of others.

An all-around admirable solution if you ask me.

while i agree it was a smart move on part of the goverment. How the families acted and some of the stuff they had said is amazing. I remember one person complaining about the payout she got. She was on CNN complaining that the fund had millions more in it and they should split it up with the families (which would have been far more then the 1.4 million they got).

even though they took the payout and agreed NOT to sue many are saying they should still have the right to sue. They are looking for a way to get around the papers they signed.

Its kind of hard to have any sympathy for them

 

[Zim Hosein]

Why isn't this thread in Politics & News?

 

[tcsenter]

while i agree it was a smart move on part of the goverment. How the families acted and some of the stuff they had said is amazing. I remember one person complaining about the payout she got. She was on CNN complaining that the fund had millions more in it and they should split it up with the families (which would have been far more then the 1.4 million they got).

Sure, some people are going to seek reprieve from their grief in negative ways that vindicate their anger. It does not help that lawyers have created a highly lucrative industry out of encouraging people to feel that blaming someone - anyone - and suing them will relieve their grief and do justice to the memory of their loved one, no matter the circumstances involved.

And of course, just because someone dies, doesn't mean the family members they leave behind are models of decency or principle. Everyone loses family members, including people who couldn't find a sense of decency or principle with two hands and a flash light.

But a lot of families had refused to even file for compensation because they felt it was wrong to receive so much money from the death of their loved one. Many others were satisfied that the compensation was fair and just.

You can't judge the lot by the rotten few.

 

[imported_Phil]

I'd like to see the victims of the Northern Ireland conflicts get paid that much. Jeebus....