Dangerous Lack of Social Studies in US K-12 Education

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Infohawk

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History is not a science...

You guys don't necessarily have to be disagreeing on anything. Social science is not like hard science but a "social science" is still going to use methods resembling those used by hard scientists. There's just no way they're going to get precise laws from it like hard scientists do because it's so hard to experiment with society and impossible to experiment on history.
 

Zen0

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You guys don't necessarily have to be disagreeing on anything. Social science is not like hard science but a "social science" is still going to use methods resembling those used by hard scientists. There's just no way they're going to get precise laws from it like hard scientists do because it's so hard to experiment with society and impossible to experiment on history.

It's an Art, not a Science.

Social Science is um... sociology and stuff
 

Zen0

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Why don't you try to edit Wikipedia and let us know how it goes.

"History has a base in both the social sciences and the humanities. In the United States the National Endowment for the Humanities includes history in its definition of a Humanities (as it does for applied Linguistics).[20] However the National Research Council classifies History as a Social science.[21] The historical method comprises the techniques and guidelines by which historians use primary sources and other evidence to research and then to write history. The Social Science History Association, formed in 1976, brings together scholars from numerous disciplines interested in social history.[22]"

Well, some people think like me at least.
 

Infohawk

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"History has a base in both the social sciences and the humanities. In the United States the National Endowment for the Humanities includes history in its definition of a Humanities (as it does for applied Linguistics).[20] However the National Research Council classifies History as a Social science.[21] The historical method comprises the techniques and guidelines by which historians use primary sources and other evidence to research and then to write history. The Social Science History Association, formed in 1976, brings together scholars from numerous disciplines interested in social history.[22]"

Well, some people think like me at least.

I don't get it are you saying the National Research Council agrees with you? Sounds like they're saying it's a social science and a humanities subject, which I tend to agree with. Weren't you saying it's only an art?
 

Jhhnn

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Social studies are for Socialists, obviously, and in that bright future envisioned by the Tea Party and their big money backers, there won't be any of either. You don't need no fancy edumucation to be a birther, or a creationist, or to believe that Reaganomics actually work, as does self regulated banking, and that America's rich really have it rough payin' all them taxes.

Educated people tend to get uppity, as well- just look at what's happening in North Africa with all those free university educations and no jobs. Ignorance is bliss- Ask the Sarah!
 

Nebor

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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

My daughter (K-9 in Indonesian schools) can't understand why many of the girls in high school spend more time on looking good/fashionable rather than on their studies.

Because if those girls work it right they'll make more money in 3 minutes exchanging wedding vows than your daughter will make in a couple years.
 

JMapleton

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Quit blaming the schools and start blaming their parents parenting ability.

A school cannot raise a child. It takes a parent.
 

wuliheron

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Quit blaming the schools and start blaming their parents parenting ability.

A school cannot raise a child. It takes a parent.


Nah, it just takes good drugs. A lot of kids are raised without parents. Kids are basically insane until their brains become fully developed. In a lot of countries like China they even treat them like a spoiled pet until they're at least five on the theory that other then housebreaking them there really isn't much you can do. If you ask me a lot of the problems we have in this country with child rearing is caused by people expecting kids to be rational. Yeah, they can talk and do things, but its a clear case of the lights being on and nobody home. Expecting more from them just confuses the little buggers unless you really know what you're doing. Some people are good with training dogs, some with raising kids, but most are mediocre at best.
 
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Zebo

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Uneducated fools is a good move to third world country, they won't expect anything else. Hope y'all are on right side of the fault line. You can bet they still teach the classics and civics at Andover because people with money understand the value of a good education in fiercely competitive world we are entering.
 
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santz

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The drainage system in this country is better maintained than the education system.
 

piasabird

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Well lying and politics might be considered science. Maybe Using the Media and the school system to brainwash kids might be considered a science also.