Dana Boente Fired

UNCjigga

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The purge of America’s federal law enforcement continues unabated. Dana Boente, life-long Republican and the FBI’s top lawyer with a 38 year career was fired because Lou Dobbs at Fox News said some not-so-nice things about his role in the Flynn case. Bill Barr reaches around Chris Wray to force him out via “retirement”.


Good to know the raging and burning of America is not a wasted opportunity for these fuckers to further weaken the rule of law.
 

trenchfoot

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Can't wait for this bogus corrupted criminal gov't Trump set up for himself and his kids crashes and burns to the ground in November. He's pushed this idea of his where he is not beholden to the Rule of Law way too far.

Time to get his overly hickeyed ass swift kicked out of office along with those Repub lackeys of his in Congress.
 

FaaR

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@tweaker2
Assuming race riots manages to do what nothing else has managed so far (including an epically slow and inept covid response, stock market crash, mass unemployment and so on), leading to his defeat come november.

You think he'll just pack up and quietly agree to go to prison? :D No. He'll declare martial law or the like, claim the election was rigged, unfair, totally unfair, and refuse to leave. That is when it gets really interesting.

Of course, Teflon Donnie might just as well walk through this one unscathed as well. Because...why not. His voters literally don't care about anything other than seeing him get re-elected, most of them simply to "own the libs" pretty much.
 

dawp

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Can't wait for this bogus corrupted criminal gov't Trump set up for himself and his kids crashes and burns to the ground in November. He's pushed this idea of his where he is not beholden to the Rule of Law way too far.

Time to get his overly hickeyed ass swift kicked out of office along with those Repub lackeys of his in Congress.
even after trump is out of office we'll still be suffering from this admin for years to come with all the people hired by them who aren't political appointees.
 

zinfamous

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even after trump is out of office we'll still be suffering from this admin for years to come with all the people hired by them who aren't political appointees.

you have to treat post-Trump Federal govnerment exactly like several post-occupation satelite states did to their administrations and government offices after the Soviets were kicked out: Fire every single person in every government position, appointed position, and have them reapply for their seats.

It's the only way to eliminate cronyism and general gross incompetence.

And I mean, it's no wonder that Trump "runs things" exactly like the Soviets did, right? Loyal rats whose sole qualification for x position is fealty to dear leader. It was only ever true as a private citizen, and now made entirely plain in the WH.
 
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While I’m not certain there will be a Democrat President come November, I am very glad it has been established that a new President may:
Pull all briefings from the previous President
Purge all the previous President's hires

I don’t want to hear any deplorables complaint about this.
 

Jhhnn

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@tweaker2
Assuming race riots manages to do what nothing else has managed so far (including an epically slow and inept covid response, stock market crash, mass unemployment and so on), leading to his defeat come november.

You think he'll just pack up and quietly agree to go to prison? :D No. He'll declare martial law or the like, claim the election was rigged, unfair, totally unfair, and refuse to leave. That is when it gets really interesting.

Of course, Teflon Donnie might just as well walk through this one unscathed as well. Because...why not. His voters literally don't care about anything other than seeing him get re-elected, most of them simply to "own the libs" pretty much.

Failing re-election, Trump will leave office Jan 20, 2021 at 12:01 PM. If he wants to take over, there's nobody to back his play. He hasn't achieved the kind of blind loyalty in the federal bureaucracy or the military that would be required. I mean, the FBI hates his guts. The Pentagon would prefer a sane commander. The SS knows he's crazy as fuck. Power is extremely decentralized in this country, anyhow.
 

eelw

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He hasn't achieved the kind of blind loyalty in the federal bureaucracy or the military that would be required. I mean, the FBI hates his guts. The Pentagon would prefer a sane commander. The SS knows he's crazy as fuck. Power is extremely decentralized in this country, anyhow.
But the senate will try their best to delay it.
 

fskimospy

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@tweaker2
Assuming race riots manages to do what nothing else has managed so far (including an epically slow and inept covid response, stock market crash, mass unemployment and so on), leading to his defeat come november.

You think he'll just pack up and quietly agree to go to prison? :D No. He'll declare martial law or the like, claim the election was rigged, unfair, totally unfair, and refuse to leave. That is when it gets really interesting.

Of course, Teflon Donnie might just as well walk through this one unscathed as well. Because...why not. His voters literally don't care about anything other than seeing him get re-elected, most of them simply to "own the libs" pretty much.
I’ve never gotten this ‘Teflon’ thing for Trump. He’s the most enduringly unpopular president in the history of modern polling, in significant part because this all does stick to him. He’s viewed as unstable, dumb, and corrupt.

He IS Teflon inside the Republican Party, which is what keeps him in office, but to the general public he’s widely disliked. That’s why he’s losing re-election right now.
 

dawp

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you have to treat post-Trump Federal govnerment exactly like several post-occupation satelite states did to their administrations and government offices after the Soviets were kicked out: Fire every single person in every government position, appointed position, and have them reapply for their seats.

It's the only way to eliminate cronyism and general gross incompetence.

And I mean, it's no wonder that Trump "runs things" exactly like the Soviets did, right? Loyal rats whose sole qualification for x position is fealty to dear leader. It was only ever true as a private citizen, and now made entirely plain in the WH.
you probably wouldn't have to purge everyone, just those hired after 1/20/2017.
 

Jhhnn

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I’ve never gotten this ‘Teflon’ thing for Trump. He’s the most enduringly unpopular president in the history of modern polling, in significant part because this all does stick to him. He’s viewed as unstable, dumb, and corrupt.

He IS Teflon inside the Republican Party, which is what keeps him in office, but to the general public he’s widely disliked. That’s why he’s losing re-election right now.

Yep. Trump & his Russian friends created a wave of mass delusion that peaked perfectly on election day in 2016. The GOP base was already crazy as fuck but what they did to the minds of entirely too many other Americans was an audacious & stunning exercise in mind fuckery that never was sustainable. It never was a plurality of voters, anyway, but rather an anomalous result of the Electoral College. Trump's approval rating plummeted almost immediately & it's hard to see how it gets better from here. He already blew it with seniors, a key GOP constituency, over the pandemic. The sense of abandonment & vulnerability weighs heavily. They care more about dying than about anything else & Trump doesn't care if they do or not. The attack on absentee voting proves it entirely.
 
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Yep. Trump & his Russian friends created a wave of mass delusion that peaked perfectly on election day in 2016. The GOP base was already crazy as fuck but what they did to the minds of entirely too many other Americans was an audacious & stunning exercise in mind fuckery that never was sustainable. It never was a plurality of voters, anyway, but rather an anomalous result of the Electoral College. Trump's approval rating plummeted almost immediately & it's hard to see how it gets better from here. He already blew it with seniors, a key GOP constituency, over the pandemic. The sense of abandonment & vulnerability weighs heavily. They care more about dying than about anything else & Trump doesn't care if they do or not. The attack on absentee voting proves it entirely.

Mmmmm not so sure about this. I’m willing to bet majority of 65+ vote Trump in 2020.
 

thilanliyan

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He IS Teflon inside the Republican Party, which is what keeps him in office, but to the general public he’s widely disliked. That’s why he’s losing re-election right now.
That's the point, he's teflon to an important segment that can hold him accountable. Widely disliked doesn't mean he will lose. He was widely disliked last time around too, but key areas won him the election. Will that be reversed this time? I'm really not sure, I don't have the pulse of the average Trump voter. Sadly, we've seen it with the farmers for example...he screwed them but they still support him, cause Dems are the devils obviously. That's why I'm not entirely optimistic...maybe 52% optimistic :p
 

zinfamous

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you probably wouldn't have to purge everyone, just those hired after 1/20/2017.

right. it doesn't make sense to fire staffers that have been around for 10, 30 years or whatever. The vast majority of government employees are completely a-political, just trudging along doing their jobs. But yoiu definitely have to look at those in the under 4 year time span, especially in the primary federal departments that are direct appointments.

I don't even think all of these would be bad, incompetent people, but could be hired back on with recommendations from their colleagues that have seniority, and of course actual qualifications that meet the job requirements; though I can't imagine a single Trump appointee or appointee-by-stooge ever being qualified for the jobs that they have been gifted. ...so those should be instant fires with no possibility to return to their positions.
 

zinfamous

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Why stop short? If we're going to do it, do it all. Every single appointed position gets canned.

well, yeah. I believe appointed positions are pretty much all from within each administration. It's the longtime hired staffers that usually overlap.
 

Jhhnn

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well, yeah. I believe appointed positions are pretty much all from within each administration. It's the longtime hired staffers that usually overlap.

Depends. The FBI director is appointed for 10 years & IG's generally serve during more than one admin. FCC commissioners & some others serve staggered 5 year terms, iirc. FEC commissioners serve staggered 6 year terms.
 

brandonbull

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I beginning to wish the protesters last night had made it all the way through and dragged his ass through the streets.
And that's why you are going to get 4 more years of Trump. Looks like the moron Governor of NY and the idiot mayor of NYC are acting too late to stop a catastrophe like they did with COVID-19. After the damage is done, they realize that some preventative measures would have made all the difference.