Damnit! Another Enviromental Disaster

compuwiz1

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This is not good.

The strong winds and high surf caused the Volgoneft-139 to split in two, spilling up 560,000 gallons of fuel oil, an official from Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry told CNN.

Why they hell are they using antiquated ships like this? I'm trying to find it, but somewhere I read that the tanker was from like the 1940's or 50's. :frown:
 

jagec

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As long as the hull is sound, it doesn't really matter the age. There are some truly ancient ships and planes out there that are still in fair shape. But I doubt these hulls had been inspected for ages...
 

eldorado99

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
This is not good.

The strong winds and high surf caused the Volgoneft-139 to split in two, spilling up 560,000 gallons of fuel oil, an official from Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry told CNN.

Why they hell are they using antiquated ships like this? I'm trying to find it, but somewhere I read that the tanker was from like the 1940's or 50's. :frown:

I don't want to sound offensive, but do you really need to ask to figure this out?

 
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Wow. As much as this sucks, I want to see one of those huge tankers splitting in two. I bet its freaking awesome.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
This is not good.

The strong winds and high surf caused the Volgoneft-139 to split in two, spilling up 560,000 gallons of fuel oil, an official from Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry told CNN.

Why they hell are they using antiquated ships like this? I'm trying to find it, but somewhere I read that the tanker was from like the 1940's or 50's. :frown:

According to this it was built in 1978

Don't know if that is accurate or not.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
This is not good.

The strong winds and high surf caused the Volgoneft-139 to split in two, spilling up 560,000 gallons of fuel oil, an official from Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry told CNN.

Why they hell are they using antiquated ships like this? I'm trying to find it, but somewhere I read that the tanker was from like the 1940's or 50's. :frown:

According to this it was built in 1978

Don't know if that is accurate or not.

Yeah, you're right. What I read was it was built during Soviet times, not in the 40's or 50's, as I originally thought.

Stuff like this should not be allowed to happen, but it does.

We have our incident in the past week, where a tanker hit a bridge piller in the bay area, but not near as much oil spilled. It makes for gooey ducks. :(

 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Wow. As much as this sucks, I want to see one of those huge tankers splitting in two. I bet its freaking awesome/

These were prone to doing just that...

The History channel did a documentary about shipbuilding and focused a lot on this particular design. These had known issues of spontaneously breaking in half and sinking, that is, until they were reinforced.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Wow. As much as this sucks, I want to see one of those huge tankers splitting in two. I bet its freaking awesome/

These were prone to doing just that...

The History channel did a documentary about shipbuilding and focused a lot on this particular design. These had known issues of spontaneously breaking in half and sinking, that is, until they were reinforced.

Well, we can see now much good that did.:roll:

 
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
We have our incident in the past week, where a tanker hit a bridge piller in the bay area, but not near as much oil spilled. It makes for gooey ducks. :(

:D

for those who didn't get it

I don't know that he meant anything other than literally what he said. Gooey ducks is a fairly funny image (even if the reality is quite sad). I wouldn't be surprised to find that I'm wrong though.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
We have our incident in the past week, where a tanker hit a bridge piller in the bay area, but not near as much oil spilled. It makes for gooey ducks. :(

:D




for those who didn't get it

Wow. Tentacle Monsters. Its a Hentai Artists wet dream

yea it was on one eps of dirtyjobs. think they grow/harvest them in halfmoon bay.
 

charrison

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The less dramatic headline would read 10,000 barrels of diesel was spilled. Fuel oil can be heavier than diesel of course, but it is still far easier to clean up than a crude oil spill.
 

tranceport

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
So are prices going up even faster now?


LOL.

No.. that's only about a million dollars of oil there. ~10,000 bbl. The US alone consumes about 860,000 bbl per hour. So as you can see... a drop in the bucket.

But you are probably right. With the way the prices go these days. I'm sure the media will pick this up and the pump price will go up $0.50/gal.


*US Consumption as of 2004. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/us.html">https://www.cia.gov/library......book/print/us.html</a>
 

0roo0roo

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what happens to oil they skim off the surface and stuff during recovery?
do they actually recover it to a degree that it can be processed as normal or is it just burned off?

recent spill in san fran as well
 

tranceport

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what happens to oil they skim off the surface and stuff during recovery?
do they actually recover it to a degree that it can be processed as normal or is it just burned off?

recent spill in san fran as well

Processed to recoup cleanup costs.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Wow. As much as this sucks, I want to see one of those huge tankers splitting in two. I bet its freaking awesome/

These were prone to doing just that...

The History channel did a documentary about shipbuilding and focused a lot on this particular design. These had known issues of spontaneously breaking in half and sinking, <that is, until they were reinforced.

Well, we can see now much good that did.:roll:

??? Not sure I follow. The ship that split was not a liberty ship. It was a russian/soviet ship design in this accident. The liberty ships were pretty well regarded for the role they performed in WW2.