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Damn, Socket 8 is enormous.

phisrow

Golden Member
That's it really. I was picking through some old machines that I need to get rid of and I ran into a Pentium Pro. Those suckers are absolutely huge.
 
The P Pro was impressive. I was the Pentium II in Pentium times and it had 256 KB of on die L2 cache which were not seen again until the socket P3.

They are huge though. I handled one. they are more massive then they appear in that picture.
 
I have about 15 of them. The core was HUGE! They got extremely hot. Amazing what 5volts heats up to. The HS on those babies were massive as well. It was a great chip though.
 
How could it not be huge? It had 256K of on-die cache! Anyone remember what the process size was back then? Wasn't it around 250 nm (no decimal 😀)?
 
Originally posted by: phisrow
I'd really like to get my hands on one of the all black 1MB cache versions.

I got one of each type. The 256/512 are best, the black one just seems plasticky and cheap, its not made of ceramic like the other two.
 
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: phisrow
I'd really like to get my hands on one of the all black 1MB cache versions.

I got one of each type. The 256/512 are best, the black one just seems plasticky and cheap, its not made of ceramic like the other two.

The black one had better thermal release. The ceramic ones got too hot and weighed so much that on some tower systems they would actually bend the cpu board (Like in the compaq deskpro systems) and render the board useless and on some systems they would eventually pull out of the slot. Spent many an hour when I worked at Morgan Stanley replacing blown out PCs and replacing CPU circuit boards because the PC design was horrible. Compaq evetually put a steel bar accross the CPU board so it would not sag.
 
Originally posted by: myocardia
How could it not be huge? It had 256K of on-die cache! Anyone remember what the process size was back then? Wasn't it around 250 nm (no decimal 😀)?

350 IIRC....
 
Originally posted by: myocardia
How could it not be huge? It had 256K of on-die cache! Anyone remember what the process size was back then? Wasn't it around 250 nm (no decimal 😀)?

the cache was in the same package, but not on the die. that's what made it so expensive though. testing could only be done after the package was put together as the cpu and cache couldn't be tested separately.
 
Originally posted by: jhu
Originally posted by: myocardia
How could it not be huge? It had 256K of on-die cache! Anyone remember what the process size was back then? Wasn't it around 250 nm (no decimal 😀)?

the cache was in the same package, but not on the die. that's what made it so expensive though. testing could only be done after the package was put together as the cpu and cache couldn't be tested separately.

True, thats why if you look at the pin side you will see two different pin sets.
 
Just had a look at the one I have. A PP 200. Not much of a cruncher these days. Yes, IIRC the cache and processor where two dies, but on one chip. AND ran at the same clock speed. They went for 1/2 clock speed on the PII and up (until later again) because the cache could not run above 200MHz.

Damn fine processor. Had it running NT4 for a long time ad it was my most stable machine.
 
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