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Damn, Russia lost 13 million soldiers during WW2.

I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.


Also for a country that was in the middle of it all, France didn't lose a lot of people.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.
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read the book, "Rape of Nanking",
amazon

"In December 1937, the Japanese army swept into the ancient city of Nanking. Within weeks, more than 300,000 Chinese civilians were systematically raped, tortured, and murdered--a death toll exceeding that of the atomic blasts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined."

a thing alot of people don't know is that the Japanese slaughtered tons of innocent Chinese similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews, and in many ways... worse.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.


Also for a country that was in the middle of it all, France didn't lose a lot of people.
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thanks japan. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Argo
I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.
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The Japanese weren?t exactly benevolent occupiers.
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And sadly enough... it's rarely taught in school.
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rarely taught in our schools, not taught at all in schools in japan.
 
I have just been watching this stuff on the History Channel

A lot of Russian soldiers were killed by their own people, but I don't know the numbers.

They were drafted into the army, and the government sent other people to shoot them if they tried to go AWOL.

To prevent his soldiers deserting the front line around the capital, Stalin ordered special 'blocking detachments' to shoot all deserters. The Soviet leadership also instructed Soviet partisans operating in the countryside to kill anyone whom they believed was disloyal. This resulted in an effective carte blanche for partisans to abuse their power and extract whatever they wanted from helpless villagers.
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It was always known that more Russians died than Jews. However, the Jews were the ones persecuted while the Russians died fighting.
 
Originally posted by: RMSistight
It was always known that more Russians died than Jews. However, the Jews were the ones persecuted while the Russians died fighting.
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I don't think 10 million civilians died fighting or even if they did fight they stood a chance.
 
Originally posted by: Reliant
Didn't the Russians suffer from poor supply lines and such also?
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Lack of supplies/weapons, poor tactics, leadership problems, lack of training, etc..

 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Reliant
Didn't the Russians suffer from poor supply lines and such also?
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Lack of supplies/weapons, poor tactics, leadership problems, lack of training, etc..
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Yeah, they would literally force young men into the army, give them a crash course in using a gun and send them into battle against heavily fortified and armed Germans.
 
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Argo
I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.
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The Japanese weren?t exactly benevolent occupiers.
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And sadly enough... it's rarely taught in school.
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i read the rape of nanking in 10th grade; a friend had bought a few books over the weekend and was reading something else first. I was shocked that it wasn't taught in school.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Reliant
Didn't the Russians suffer from poor supply lines and such also?
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Lack of supplies/weapons, poor tactics, leadership problems, lack of training, etc..
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Yeah, they would literally force young men into the army, give them a crash course in using a gun and send them into battle against heavily fortified and armed Germans.
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yea ... Watch the movie "Enemy at the Gates." You can learn all about the Russian tactics of WWII.
 
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Reliant
Didn't the Russians suffer from poor supply lines and such also?
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Lack of supplies/weapons, poor tactics, leadership problems, lack of training, etc..
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Yeah, they would literally force young men into the army, give them a crash course in using a gun and send them into battle against heavily fortified and armed Germans.
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yea ... Watch the movie "Enemy at the Gates." You can learn all about the Russian tactics of WWII.
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It's called "meatgrinder" for a reason
 
Originally posted by: Argo
I also didn't realize so many chinese civilians died.


Also for a country that was in the middle of it all, France didn't lose a lot of people.
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That's because they surrender when the first shot is fired. 😀
 
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