I teach computer lab and do all the IT work in a k - 7 Charter School. We have a few hotties including Teachers and Teachers Aides, problem is most are married or have boyfriends.
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I am amazed at all the hotties I see on dating and porn sites who claim to be elementary school teachers.Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I do a lot of work at schools. I'm telling you guys, you all need to be elementary/middle school teachers. So many single, hot womenz. I sorta wish I had been a elementary school teacher.
I'm like "DAMN! Them honey's werent around when I was in school!"
a) I live in the Bay Area. My mom is a hair stylist and my dad is a gardener. They have no US college degrees and thus are forced to do what they have to. Not exactly what you would consider pretigious professions by any, but my sister and I always got what we needed as kids, and we own a 5 bedroom house. $41,000 is more than enough for someone living by themselves.
b) My parents also don't get a week off for Thanksgiving, spring break, a month off for Xmas, and certainly don't get three months off for summer.
c) There are an incredibly wide variety of teachers out there..and I've seen them on all levels. Having gone to school for about 80% of my life you cannot say I do not know what teachers go through. Whatever work they do, I do. Unless they're coming up with secret lesson plans or assignments that I don't know about, I see what they create.
Some will easily work 60 hours a week, plus weekends, and whatever, and I have nothing but respect for those. Others will essentially take out a lesson plan from out of a book, read from it, and give their kids homework. Math and physics have not changed dramatically over the years, especially what is taught at a high school level. Lesson plans are created mosty by teachers, and there's no reason why reusing them year after year does not work.
And, one final point:
Which is a good deal more than what most graduates with degrees in art history and sociology can probably hope to make.
From what I've seen, average starting jobs for humanities majors range from the mid 30s to high 30s..some of these jobs being based in downtown San Francisco.
The Charter Schools using our method pay three grades for certified teachers (which I am not). Grade 1 - $35k, grade 2 - $45k, and and grade 3 - $55k, admin falls under grade 3. These pay grades are great for the teaching field in our state. Fortunately I am salaried and get all the normal days off, the total works out to 180 work days a year + any extra time I have to put in for IT, which hasn't been much.
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Which is also a sh1tload less buying power than anywhere else in the country.
Money in and of itself is totally useless. Its the stuff money buys that we really want. And in california that kind of money doesnt get you much. You could make 35 grand in the midwest or 40 grand on the east coast and live much better.
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What you guys also don't realize is all the other stuff teachers are having to do now. School systems are just getting more political, and with that they think they need to have their teachers do more than what they should be doing;teaching. I know, cause my mom teaches in one and I work in one. It's political hell.
however the key to making money in schools is to do one or several of the following. a: be a coach, down here football is king. They pull in a LOT of money and their most taxing class is PE, where they get to watch 20-30 students run around a track for 90mins. Gee that's gotta be hard work. b: be an administrator. Then you can not really know what it's like in a classroom, but still boss teachers around. Usually have them do stupid things, but hey you get payed 90k your obviously better than them. c: become someone in the upper offices of the central school office. Usually their job is to make themselves look good, and have the teachers do that for them. Often this means lots of tests. Because we all know that if you test the students more they will obviously be much smarter.
however the key to making money in schools is to do one or several of the following. a: be a coach, down here football is king. They pull in a LOT of money and their most taxing class is PE, where they get to watch 20-30 students run around a track for 90mins. Gee that's gotta be hard work. b: be an administrator. Then you can not really know what it's like in a classroom, but still boss teachers around. Usually have them do stupid things, but hey you get payed 90k your obviously better than them. c: become someone in the upper offices of the central school office. Usually their job is to make themselves look good, and have the teachers do that for them. Often this means lots of tests. Because we all know that if you test the students more they will obviously be much smarter.
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Syringer, are you comparing the average salary of teachers to starting salaries of other graduates?? You do realize that many of the teachers that go into that average have been working for quite a few years, right?
And, your comment that everything your teacher did, you do. You're forgetting, your teacher does it times the number of students in the class. Of course, there are teachers who will make every test multiple choice, and use a scantron to correct the exams. Very few that I've run into rely on that method. You're welcome to correct my pre-calculus exams next week... They have 10 trig identities to prove - difficult trig identitities. Most will take at least 8 lines of work. I can't simply look at the bottom line; any idiot of a student would know to just make the left hand side say the same thing as the right hand side. Instead, I have to go through 80 lines of work for each student, line by line. For each identity, I'll probably see at least a half dozen different approaches - an answer key would be useless.
And, your comment that everything your teacher did, you do. You're forgetting, your teacher does it times the number of students in the class. Of course, there are teachers who will make every test multiple choice, and use a scantron to correct the exams. Very few that I've run into rely on that method. You're welcome to correct my pre-calculus exams next week... They have 10 trig identities to prove - difficult trig identitities. Most will take at least 8 lines of work. I can't simply look at the bottom line; any idiot of a student would know to just make the left hand side say the same thing as the right hand side. Instead, I have to go through 80 lines of work for each student, line by line. For each identity, I'll probably see at least a half dozen different approaches - an answer key would be useless.
The Charter Schools using our method pay three grades for certified teachers (which I am not). Grade 1 - $35k, grade 2 - $45k, and and grade 3 - $55k, admin falls under grade 3. These pay grades are great for the teaching field in our state. Fortunately I am salaried and get all the normal days off, the total works out to 180 work days a year + any extra time I have to put in for IT, which hasn't been much.
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Originally posted by: Syringer
In California the average starting pay is $45k I believe with one of the best vacation policies of any job out there--in total it's about 8 months a year of work. And the more experienced ones who reuse lesson plans simply teach and grade which takes no more than 5-6 hours a day.
They're hardly screwed at all imo.
a) I live in the Bay Area. My mom is a hair stylist and my dad is a gardener. They have no US college degrees and thus are forced to do what they have to. Not exactly what you would consider pretigious professions by any, but my sister and I always got what we needed as kids, and we own a 5 bedroom house. $41,000 is more than enough for someone living by themselves.
b) My parents also don't get a week off for Thanksgiving, spring break, a month off for Xmas, and certainly don't get three months off for summer.
c) There are an incredibly wide variety of teachers out there..and I've seen them on all levels. Having gone to school for about 80% of my life you cannot say I do not know what teachers go through. Whatever work they do, I do. Unless they're coming up with secret lesson plans or assignments that I don't know about, I see what they create.
Some will easily work 60 hours a week, plus weekends, and whatever, and I have nothing but respect for those. Others will essentially take out a lesson plan from out of a book, read from it, and give their kids homework. Math and physics have not changed dramatically over the years, especially what is taught at a high school level. Lesson plans are created mosty by teachers, and there's no reason why reusing them year after year does not work.
And, one final point:
quote:
Across California the median annual salary in 2005 was $57,051 for secondary school teachers; while in Orange County the median was $62,456.
Which is a good deal more than what most graduates with degrees in art history and sociology can probably hope to make.
Let?s remove some of the clutter which is irrelevant.
a. What your parents do has nothing to do with teachers? salaries. Whether someone is living by themselves or feeding a large family has nothing to do with this.
b. The days that your parents take off is their choice and is irrelevant to teachers?
salaries. Teachers take classes during the summer to meet licensing requirements.
c.Teachers do a lot of background work that you do not see. I?m guessing that you do
not see lesson plans. Teachers are required to teach specific things and this will be
reflected in their plans. A student would only see the product rather than the
background work that was done for a particular lesson.
I?ve noticed that you?ve chosen median salaries to back yourself up. That?s interesting, but not real. The following information came from the salary schedule for West Contra Costa Unified School District. A first year teacher would start at $35,509. You said, "the average starting pay is $45k." Your figures ranged from $57,051 to $62,456.
You said, ?Lesson plans are created mosty by teachers, and there's no reason why reusing them year after year does not work.? You need to ask an administrator. It is required that teachers? lesson plans reflect what the school wants taught and this changes from year to year.
You said, ??a month off for Xmas.? I?m unaware of any teachers that have a month off for Xmas. I?m aware of many teachers who have a two-week Xmas break, or ten calendar days off.
You said, ?Having gone to school for about 80% of my life you cannot say I do not know what teachers go through.? I?ll say it this way then. It?s a though you?ve just spent two hours watching a great play. You emerge from the theatre and say, ?Those actors have it easy, just two hours work.? You are ignorant of the many rehearsals that they?ve completed or acting classes that they?ve struggled with. You are also ignorant as to what teachers do. Remember, ignorance is not stupidity. You are only unaware.
Here?s the link for the salary schedule. You will have to download the PDF. It is schedule 8 on this page.
[http://www.wccusd.k12.ca.us/HumanResources/salaryschedule/index.shtml]
In California the average starting pay is $45k I believe with one of the best vacation policies of any job out there--in total it's about 8 months a year of work. And the more experienced ones who reuse lesson plans simply teach and grade which takes no more than 5-6 hours a day.
They're hardly screwed at all imo.
a) I live in the Bay Area. My mom is a hair stylist and my dad is a gardener. They have no US college degrees and thus are forced to do what they have to. Not exactly what you would consider pretigious professions by any, but my sister and I always got what we needed as kids, and we own a 5 bedroom house. $41,000 is more than enough for someone living by themselves.
b) My parents also don't get a week off for Thanksgiving, spring break, a month off for Xmas, and certainly don't get three months off for summer.
c) There are an incredibly wide variety of teachers out there..and I've seen them on all levels. Having gone to school for about 80% of my life you cannot say I do not know what teachers go through. Whatever work they do, I do. Unless they're coming up with secret lesson plans or assignments that I don't know about, I see what they create.
Some will easily work 60 hours a week, plus weekends, and whatever, and I have nothing but respect for those. Others will essentially take out a lesson plan from out of a book, read from it, and give their kids homework. Math and physics have not changed dramatically over the years, especially what is taught at a high school level. Lesson plans are created mosty by teachers, and there's no reason why reusing them year after year does not work.
And, one final point:
quote:
Across California the median annual salary in 2005 was $57,051 for secondary school teachers; while in Orange County the median was $62,456.
Which is a good deal more than what most graduates with degrees in art history and sociology can probably hope to make.
Let?s remove some of the clutter which is irrelevant.
a. What your parents do has nothing to do with teachers? salaries. Whether someone is living by themselves or feeding a large family has nothing to do with this.
b. The days that your parents take off is their choice and is irrelevant to teachers?
salaries. Teachers take classes during the summer to meet licensing requirements.
c.Teachers do a lot of background work that you do not see. I?m guessing that you do
not see lesson plans. Teachers are required to teach specific things and this will be
reflected in their plans. A student would only see the product rather than the
background work that was done for a particular lesson.
I?ve noticed that you?ve chosen median salaries to back yourself up. That?s interesting, but not real. The following information came from the salary schedule for West Contra Costa Unified School District. A first year teacher would start at $35,509. You said, "the average starting pay is $45k." Your figures ranged from $57,051 to $62,456.
You said, ?Lesson plans are created mosty by teachers, and there's no reason why reusing them year after year does not work.? You need to ask an administrator. It is required that teachers? lesson plans reflect what the school wants taught and this changes from year to year.
You said, ??a month off for Xmas.? I?m unaware of any teachers that have a month off for Xmas. I?m aware of many teachers who have a two-week Xmas break, or ten calendar days off.
You said, ?Having gone to school for about 80% of my life you cannot say I do not know what teachers go through.? I?ll say it this way then. It?s a though you?ve just spent two hours watching a great play. You emerge from the theatre and say, ?Those actors have it easy, just two hours work.? You are ignorant of the many rehearsals that they?ve completed or acting classes that they?ve struggled with. You are also ignorant as to what teachers do. Remember, ignorance is not stupidity. You are only unaware.
Here?s the link for the salary schedule. You will have to download the PDF. It is schedule 8 on this page.
[http://www.wccusd.k12.ca.us/HumanResources/salaryschedule/index.shtml]
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