Damn good G80 article

Creig

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Inquirer article properly uses word "architecture" instead of made-up word "marchitecture".... :head explodes;
 

nitromullet

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Inq!=Faud

This is a different author, one that seems to have a decent grasp of what he's talking about, and he warns that it's all speculation. Not a bad read IMO, but take it for what it is...
 

JAG87

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Inq!=Faud

This is a different author, one that seems to have a decent grasp of what he's talking about, and he warns that it's all speculation. Not a bad read IMO, but take it for what it is...

this is why I posted
 

SpeedZealot369

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What a BS article, I bet you the guy just sat down and started making things up as he was writing.


Good article? wtf?
 

JAG87

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I believe this article gives us more info than anything else around right now, so whether its BS or truth, its the only information we have.

Take it with a grain of salt (like the author even said) and shut up.
 

KingGheedora

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Yeah, good article. Good if you're such a hardware freak that you would enjoy reading through an "article" by some random guy who doesn't know anything for sure, talk about things he himself doubts or thinks are odd.

That was one of the few Inquirer articles I've read, I begin to see why people give the site such a bad rap.
 

jiffylube1024

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It's interesting info, but it's also kind of useless aside from fun speculation. Half DX9 card, half DX10 card? Sounds a little odd. Without a real explanation from Nvidia themselves, we're going to have to wait until we hear exactly what the card is and isn't.

If it's anything like how the INQ is describing it, it reminds me (off the top of my head) of NV30. Great at DX8 stuff (which was already getting passe at the time), mediocre to crap at DX9.

Except this time DX9 is still where it's at for a little while, since Vista is delayed (and looks like ******, to me anyways) for another year.
 

SpeedZealot369

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Originally posted by: JAG87
I believe this article gives us more info than anything else around right now, so whether its BS or truth, its the only information we have.

Take it with a grain of salt (like the author even said) and shut up.

This article gives us nothing more then anything else around, it's beyond me why your defending this article :confused: it's probably one of the worse Inquirer articles I've read.
 

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I hope it's a much faster 7900GTX with the same cooler and better AA/AF. That would rock. :thumbsup:
 

TheRyuu

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First off, even if it did NOT have unified shaders (like we hear) I really don't see how that would affect it's DX10 compatibility. The only thing that unified shaders do for you is enable you to switch between vertex and pixel shaders depending on the load and how the GPU wants to distribute it. Thats just a guess. Have no idea if what I just said is right, just sounds good :p

So now, here is my predictions:
-32 Pixel Pipelines (with those Geometry Shaders in there somewere)
-16 Vertex Shaders
-Maby a few more ROP's (20?, or the standard 16?)
-700mhz+ core clock
-1ghz+ memory (2ghz+ DDR)
-Better memory controller (512mb ringbus like ATI's?)
-Less Perf. hit with AA/AF
-Better IQ (take a clue from ATI please)

Any more speculation?
 

tuteja1986

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See some of you don't get the Inquire :( even they may post bullshit, it not really pulled out of there ass... they talk to some idiot and he tells them some serious bull and they post it up. Sometimes they talk to the right person and leak important detail :( ... Some Company "Nvidia" in the NDA have a rule stating don't leak to inquire... they must be doing something right to get them self printed on it ;) lol
 

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The 384-bit memory bus and the 12 mem chip configuration sounds somewhat plausible, I've seen it mentioned before. Also, it's been said before that it's a huge chip, so don't expect stratospheric clock speeds. But 96 pipes, half DX9, half DX10 is just pure speculation, and IMO would be the worst design and waste of resourses since NV30, maybe even worse. Not to mention, I dont expect more than 32 PS in total, nevermind 96.
 

SpeedZealot369

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I think we should consider that design is a huge factor, take for example the 7600gt, on paper it would seem to be a pretty bad card with the 128bit memory and all, but it beats many 256bit cards doesn't it?

Same with the x1800 series, on paper they were almost identical to the x800 series, but I think it's safe to say they were quite more powerfull.

So yeah, my point is that there's more to graphics cards then pipes and clocks :D

-SZ
 

Gstanfor

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Frankly, I don't think that just because the article *supposedly* wan't written by Fraud that gives it one iota more credibility.

"Charlie" also wrote the previous article - http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34319 and it contained such gems as

Since Nvidia decided they hate us again, look for coverage earlier rather than later, handcuffs are easier to avoid than to ignore. Either way, they will be thinking of us, smooches fellas.
which is pure Fraud talk IMHO.


 

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If you read between the lines a bit, Charlie is saying that there are strong or persistent rumours that:

1) The chip will be a 400 square-millimetre die.
2) There will be 12 memory chips on the card.

The rest is clearly pure speculation as to why these two things might be the case, if they are. But he sounds fairly sure on those two basic points (i.e. more than one source has told him this).

It wouldn't particularly surprise me if there were a 384-bit memory bus. I also wouldn't be especially surprised if G80 is a "dual-core GPU". Suggesting that half is dedicated to DX10 and the other half to DX9 is just barmy, but the possibility of the chip being effectively "dual-core" (in the same sort of way as a CPU is) makes some sense - it might, effectively, be two 7900 cores with a few DX10 tweaks on the same die (hence the need for more memory bandwidth).