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Damn Dorm room is hot as hell!

narzy

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It's gotta be like 90 degrees up in here :( Sucks living on the 3rd floor. The assholes in the main office of the complex are sitting there comfortably in their 30 below air conditioned pent house and leaving us in the shitter.

Of course I have a casement window which rules out any of those $40 ac units they have on sale at fry's :( as I consequence I'm getting fried!

Any recommendations for a good portable AC unit. Preferably something used as a backup unit or spot cooler for datacenters...I wanna make this room a walk in freezer...

Hold on, there is a knock on the door. I think it's the devil wanting his heat back...

I'd go to the library but in an effort to save money our school has decided to increase the temperature limits on the environmental systems and keep the buildings at an uncomfortable 75 to 77 degrees. Oh yeah, and their closed for memorial day :( In the winter we were making ice cubes in the classrooms because they refused to turn on the heaters...
 

BeauJangles

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60,000 BTUs for a dorm room? Overkill would be an understatement. You're gonna need something in the 4,000 - 5,000 BTU range I'd think.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
60,000 BTUs for a dorm room? Overkill would be an understatement. You're gonna need something in the 4,000 - 5,000 BTU range I'd think.

yeah, looks like it would cost me 11 grand too... ;) What is a reasonable price range? do remember I can't use the hanging window style units as my window opens sideways and not up and down.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
60,000 BTUs for a dorm room? Overkill would be an understatement. You're gonna need something in the 4,000 - 5,000 BTU range I'd think.

yeah, looks like it would cost me 11 grand too... ;) What is a reasonable price range? do remember I can't use the hanging window style units as my window opens sideways and not up and down.

Yeah, I bet you could actually jury rig one to work in your window, but your university would probably not be happy about it.

For the windowless versions, you're probably looking at ~$300 - $350 for a lower end model.
 

AndroidVageta

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I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

would that actually work?
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

That won't work. The AC unit generates more heat than cool air. That heat needs to escape or his dorm room will get hotter, not colder. Also, window AC units have no mechanism to catch condensation, so it would just leak onto his floor.

edit: This is why windowless AC units and exist and why those units have exhaust hoses.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

That will make the room hotter.

A window AC works by moving heat from inside the the backside of the AC which goes outside. If you put both parts inside, no cooling will happen and the AC will give off heat which will make the room hotter.
 

TonyG

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I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

That will make the room hotter.

A window AC works by moving heat from inside the the backside of the AC which goes outside. If you put both parts inside, no cooling will happen and the AC will give off heat which will make the room hotter.

That's what I thought too...
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

would that actually work?

No. In a trapped system, your room will actually get hotter, not colder.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

anyone partial to any specific brands?
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
I would honestly say that sans portability just get a standard window AC unit and put it on the wall by a shelf or some form of support. A "window" unit doesn't have to use air from outside or sit in a window...just get a regular unit and stick it in a corner or something. The local bar has them on shelves that are bolted into the ceiling above us...no window or outside air source...just circulating whats in the room.

Simple enough.

would that actually work?
No, it wouldn't. An AC needs to be able to vent its heat outside. Otherwise you've just got a low-wattage space heater.

A regular window unit just circulates air that's inside the house anyway. It brings in warm room air, passes it over cool coils, and blows it back inside.
Then on the outside is another blower which passes outdoor air over the hot coils.



Edit: Well, looks like I was beaten to it, several times. :eek:


 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

Your best bet is one of those $300 windowless units. They'll put out more than enough cool air for your room and you don't have to do anything crazy to the window. You'll just have to stuff some insulation in the window above where the exhaust hose sits.


 

waffleironhead

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OP. WHen I woorked for menards I sold a line of portable ac made by soleus. FWIW out of the hundred or so I had sold about 5 came back as comparded to the maytags and haiers where the return rate was more into the 25% range.
 

Clair de Lune

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

Your best bet is one of those $300 windowless units. They'll put out more than enough cool air for your room and you don't have to do anything crazy to the window. You'll just have to stuff some insulation in the window above where the exhaust hose sits.

wtf.. this is where ATOT gets too anal and overthinking things.

1. Go to home depot/lowes/sears
2. Pick up those stacked window AC units for $79.99
3. Those are 4000-5000 BTU, which is more than enough for any DORM rooms.
 

AndroidVageta

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Damn...yeah, my bad...wasn't thinking of the exhaust...oh well, I tried LOL!

Buy a mini fridge and just keep the door opened haha!
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: waffleironhead
OP. WHen I woorked for menards I sold a line of portable ac made by soleus. FWIW out of the hundred or so I had sold about 5 came back as comparded to the maytags and haiers where the return rate was more into the 25% range.

Thanks,

I've been researching this problem myself and I've seen that brand mentioned a number of times, I was weary because they are priced considerably lower then other units with the same BTU. I'll go check them out, see if I can't find a local place that stocks them and see if I can test one before I bring it home.
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

Your best bet is one of those $300 windowless units. They'll put out more than enough cool air for your room and you don't have to do anything crazy to the window. You'll just have to stuff some insulation in the window above where the exhaust hose sits.

wtf.. this is where ATOT gets too anal and overthinking things.

1. Go to home depot/lowes/sears
2. Pick up those stacked window AC units for $79.99
3. Those are 4000-5000 BTU, which is more than enough for any DORM rooms.

Except most dormsI am familiar with have rules against window ac units, so the only option is to use portables.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

Your best bet is one of those $300 windowless units. They'll put out more than enough cool air for your room and you don't have to do anything crazy to the window. You'll just have to stuff some insulation in the window above where the exhaust hose sits.

wtf.. this is where ATOT gets too anal and overthinking things.

1. Go to home depot/lowes/sears
2. Pick up those stacked window AC units for $79.99
3. Those are 4000-5000 BTU, which is more than enough for any DORM rooms.

That was my thought too, but my window won't allow those types of units without me having to get a piece of plywood cut and the management won't let me do it.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: AndroidVageta
Damn...yeah, my bad...wasn't thinking of the exhaust...oh well, I tried LOL!

Buy a mini fridge and just keep the door opened haha!

Those expel heat out the back as well :laugh:
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: TonyG
I would probably just use a normal window unit, and cut a piece of plywood to properly support it in the window.

Yeah, the dorm management people would probably not be up on that idea...

Your best bet is one of those $300 windowless units. They'll put out more than enough cool air for your room and you don't have to do anything crazy to the window. You'll just have to stuff some insulation in the window above where the exhaust hose sits.

wtf.. this is where ATOT gets too anal and overthinking things.

1. Go to home depot/lowes/sears
2. Pick up those stacked window AC units for $79.99
3. Those are 4000-5000 BTU, which is more than enough for any DORM rooms.

Way to not read the thread at all. Congratulations on looking like a complete douche. :thumbsup:


If you know where to find cheaper windowless AC units, please share. Otherwise, what the fuck are you contributing to this thread?