Dallas officer enters apartment she mistakes for her own, fatally shoots man inside

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sdifox

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Where are you guys getting your facts from? Did I miss something? The initial articles about this, before she was charged, say she was put on leave pending the investigation. After it was announced that they intended to charge her with manslaughter, I see nothing except the article linked by Vic says they (the press) didn't know if she was in custody or not. A Google search returned this from CNN just an hour ago which says the police are getting an arrest warrant for her:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dallas-police-shooting/index.html

Are you saying they should have taken her into custody before investigating, before charging, and before getting an arrest warrant?

I can only assume here that once they arrest her, probably today unless she's on the run, she will either be in jail or out on bail, just like anyone else.


Yes, joe six pack would have been arrested on the spot pending charges.
 

umbrella39

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So wait, heard on the radio on my way home that she didn't even have the correct floor... Did she have a stroke? That's some serious WTF?
 
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Lanyap

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You folks are over analyzing. There is a lot more to this story than is being released. Initial information doesn’t make sense. It’s obvious they knew each other. Wait and see.
 

woolfe9998

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You folks are over analyzing. There is a lot more to this story than is being released. Initial information doesn’t make sense. It’s obvious they knew each other. Wait and see.

I think you could well be correct. I'm just arguing this under the hypothetical assumption that it was an accident. It's such a strange thing to happen though that I wouldn't be surprised if we found out they knew each other more than just from passing in the hallways.
 

OutHouse

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Again, because you seem to be a little slow: THEY. SIGNED. UP. FOR. IT. If you can't handle the job you're free to quit, hopefully before you gun down an innocent man.

You have hate issues. Seek help
 

pauldun170

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Really gut wrenching Twitter posts by a friend of the victim. Some lovely pictures inside. Seems like he was an awesome guy.

https://twitter.com/bye_philicia

Black Lives Matter.
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allisolm

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pauldon170's post #135 above makes more sense as an explanation of what happened - not that it excuses the shooting. She may not have even entered the apt to see that it was not hers.

Lives on 13th floor but got off on 14. Went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Put down things she was holding and was trying the door again when he swung open the door and startled her. The officer believed he, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon.
 

madoka

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If I've learned anything from liberal thoughts on shootings, it's that we should ignore what the cop did and focus on criminalizing the gun.
 

Bumrush99

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If I've learned anything from liberal thoughts on shootings, it's that we should ignore what the cop did and focus on criminalizing the gun.
I'm glad you learned something and that you're utilizing that Trump University degree wisely. They clearly produce only the best people.
 
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You folks are over analyzing. There is a lot more to this story than is being released. Initial information doesn’t make sense. It’s obvious they knew each other. Wait and see.

Agreed, whole thing make no damn sense.
 

Jaskalas

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Why is it they never grab their taser, mace or pepper spray, club or radio first?

Because this is America. And the chance that the other person is armed is high.

Factor into that, police training videos. Recordings of prior interactions. The suspect is nice, maybe evasive... but still friendly. Until BAM, the cop is dead. Those are real incidents, all it takes is a split second to die from the other person's gun. So the assumption is that EVERYONE is armed. And EVERYONE could be just one second away from ending you. Your job is to go out there and face that. To stare death in the face, day after day. Knowing you have a target on your back. Knowing that you're going to piss off some itchy trigger fingers.

Paranoia is the reality of the job.
 

Vic

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pauldon170's post #135 above makes more sense as an explanation of what happened - not that it excuses the shooting. She may not have even entered the apt to see that it was not hers.

Lives on 13th floor but got off on 14. Went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Put down things she was holding and was trying the door again when he swung open the door and startled her. The officer believed he, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon.
Still manslaughter. Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you get to gun down someone in their own home. Suppose you or I worked a long day/shift and did the same thing. Still an honest mistake? And if so, when should any of us ever be held accountable for our mistakes? Especially when those mistakes result in the death of an innocent bystander?
 
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Vic

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If I've learned anything from liberal thoughts on shootings, it's that we should ignore what the cop did and focus on criminalizing the gun.
What I've learned about conservative thoughts on shootings, it's that we should ignore what the cop did and focus on celebrating that another "thug" is dead.
 

allisolm

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pauldon170's post #135 above makes more sense as an explanation of what happened - not that it excuses the shooting. She may not have even entered the apt to see that it was not hers.

Lives on 13th floor but got off on 14. Went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Put down things she was holding and was trying the door again when he swung open the door and startled her. The officer believed he, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon.

Still manslaughter. Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you get to gun down someone in their home.

Agreed - hence the "not that it excuses the shooting" part of my post.
 

Vic

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After a 14 hour shift? Talk about some overtime pay.
Typical. Big city cops are among the highest paid of all public employees. Average is around $150k/yr with the best union benefits and pension packages there are.
The narrative that cops are underpaid only applies to small town cops who do little more than issue traffic tickets.
 
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Vic

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Agreed - hence the "not that it excuses the shooting" part of my post.
Fair enough. I wasn't arguing with you, per se, just pointing out where your narrative is likely to go given that cops are rarely prosecuted for shootings, even when the victim was an innocent bystander. Easier for the city to sweep it under the rug by having their insurance pay out a multimillion dollar settlement to the victim's family. So effectively, the citizens foot the bill for less government accountability.
 
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