Daddy bought a 17 year old son a Viper, totaled in less than a day, passenger dead

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Vic

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Yes, because I said rich people, not rich and shallow people.

This forum has the single-worst case of selective reading ever.
Well, you're not wishing death on poor and shallow people are you? Their economic status is still the key determiner, not their "shallowness". So I don't see where the "selective reading" is taking place.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: Baked
"The school district's superintendent said that counselors will be at school Monday to talk to studentS."

Talk about what? That the kid's a fscking idiot and his dad's a dumbass?

They left the S off. I guess no one at your high school ever died while you were there. It's not easy for a lot of people to go through to lose a friend.

Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: aplefka
Obviously this hits a bit close to home for you, so I'll keep it brief. There are so many assholes that their parents are rich and spoil them, and I get so tired of dealing with them every day, that fvck yes I'm glad when they finally get their fair share of real life. It's not a generalization, it's a fact. If you're going to be rich and shallow, you don't deserve to get out unscathed. It's a shame the driver didn't die.
So this is a normal thing for you? To wish death on people simply because of their or their parents' economic position? That's pretty fscked up.
Heaven forbid aplefka gets rich and people want him to die just because of that :disgust:

Yes, because I said rich people, not rich and shallow people.

This forum has the single-worst case of selective reading ever.

I'd assume a person like you believes rich = shallow.

So you guys are going to get mad for people making "generalizations" which are true (rich shallow people are, well, shallow assholes) and yet you're going to assume something about me, someone whom you have never met.

I have many friends that are rich, and not just middle-class rich, I mean rich as in they're definitely in the upper-class of everything. But they're not spoiled, they're not assholes, and they're thankful for it.

I also know many people at my school who are spoiled and rich, and fvck yes I'd like to see them get dealt a card of real life once in a while.

I only said it's a shame the driver didn't die, not all rich and shallow people. There's time enough for change, and I understand that, but what I don't understand is why they think their money really matters. In all honesty, it's not even THEIR money, it's their parents.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: aplefka
Yes, because I said rich people, not rich and shallow people.

This forum has the single-worst case of selective reading ever.
Well, you're not wishing death on poor and shallow people are you? Their economic status is still the key determiner, not their "shallowness". So I don't see where the "selective reading" is taking place.

A poor shallow person isn't all fvcking elitist like a rich shallow person is. What do they have to be elitist about? Money gives you pride, and if you're poor and shallow you don't have much pride.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Vic
aplefka, are you for or against capital punishment?

Ehh, undecided. It's not much of an issue for me since I come from California and not Texas (Texas has a lot more of them than us afaik). You guys read way too much into what you want to though and not enough of what is written, so I'm sure someone will say I'm making a generalization there too.

I just think that teenagers need to be a little more self-conscious when doing stupid things and realize they're not invincible. This spoiled bastard KILLED somebody, and he's going to live. It might be more torture for him to live and have to deal with it everyday, but so what? It's unfair. It's just like the drunk driver always living instead of the victim.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Vic
aplefka, are you for or against capital punishment?
Ehh, undecided. It's not much of an issue for me since I come from California and not Texas (Texas has a lot more of them than us afaik). You guys read way too much into what you want to though and not enough of what is written, so I'm sure someone will say I'm making a generalization there too.

I just think that teenagers need to be a little more self-conscious when doing stupid things and realize they're not invincible. This spoiled bastard KILLED somebody, and he's going to live. It might be more torture for him to live and have to deal with it everyday, but so what? It's unfair. It's just like the drunk driver always living instead of the victim.
Of course the circumstances are screwed up. But he didn't kill his friend with intent. He was just being a stupid teenager, and (whether you believe it or not) he will pay for his mistake for the rest of his life. Wishing death on someone for their mistakes is bad joo-joo IMO -- spreads murderous feelings.
 

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
darwinism at its finest.

Oh, but you're just wrong. He didn't die, the passenger did, who was an innocent bystander to this entirely misconceived idea.

How do people think doing this is a good idea?
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Vic
aplefka, are you for or against capital punishment?
Ehh, undecided. It's not much of an issue for me since I come from California and not Texas (Texas has a lot more of them than us afaik). You guys read way too much into what you want to though and not enough of what is written, so I'm sure someone will say I'm making a generalization there too.

I just think that teenagers need to be a little more self-conscious when doing stupid things and realize they're not invincible. This spoiled bastard KILLED somebody, and he's going to live. It might be more torture for him to live and have to deal with it everyday, but so what? It's unfair. It's just like the drunk driver always living instead of the victim.
Of course the circumstances are screwed up. But he didn't kill his friend with intent. He was just being a stupid teenager, and (whether you believe it or not) he will pay for his mistake for the rest of his life. Wishing death on someone for their mistakes is bad joo-joo IMO -- spreads murderous feelings.

Well I don't go around to rich shallow people saying "I wish you would die." Maybe "I wish you would grow up and get kicked out of mommy and daddy's house" or something along those lines, but not death.
 

It never ceases to amaze me how every thread turns into some massive personal debate that isn't even related to the topic of the thread.

:beer: for sunday.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: SampSon
It never ceases to amaze me how every thread turns into some massive personal debate that isn't even related to the topic of the thread.

:beer: for sunday.

As I'm listening to Eleanor Rigby too. :)
 

Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: SampSon
It never ceases to amaze me how every thread turns into some massive personal debate that isn't even related to the topic of the thread.

:beer: for sunday.

As I'm listening to Eleanor Rigby too. :)
The song by the beatles?
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: SampSon
It never ceases to amaze me how every thread turns into some massive personal debate that isn't even related to the topic of the thread.

:beer: for sunday.

As I'm listening to Eleanor Rigby too. :)
The song by the beatles?

Is there another band that has come up with a different song by the same name? (Yes, by The Beatles.)
 

skyking

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Takes me back to high school days. One upperclassman who has a steel plate in his head, he went off the road at a corner. He was out of school for 6 months.
Two years later, two corners closer to town, this really beautiful neighbor girl got the top of her skull removed in a jeep accident. Both of them left the road at high speed.
 

Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: SampSon
It never ceases to amaze me how every thread turns into some massive personal debate that isn't even related to the topic of the thread.

:beer: for sunday.

As I'm listening to Eleanor Rigby too. :)
The song by the beatles?

Is there another band that has come up with a different song by the same name? (Yes, by The Beatles.)
There was a band by that name.
 

bondboy

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Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: icepik
The problem is that people who have that kind of wealth forget that their actions have consequences and they care nothing fo rthe people they're hurting with their reckless actions.

WTF does wealth have to do with it???

I see poor kids off themselves and hurt others through stupid actions all the time.

Good GAWD this class envy is silly.


Exactly. Obviously we have some peeople here that are very envious of other people with money. They don't have much financially so they lash out at the folks with money.

Poor people injure and maim other people all the time. It's not a rich/poor issue as it's a parenting issue! Good solid parenting is what matters and the father who bought his son a Viper made a mistake. That's life.


People can be stupid sometimes, whether they are rich or poor. Just that poor people are limited in resources, which acts as a barrier to prevent them from doing stupid things (ie. buying their son a Viper). On the other hand, rich folks don't have this barrier. Which makes their stupidity more dangerous.
 

StageLeft

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Actually, given that the person who died was not wearing a seatbelt, I do consider Darwinism at work here. Given that everybody has heard a million times to wear a seatbelt, if you're not wearing one and you die you really had it coming to you. It would be like somebody touching a hot stove over and over and over; they just aren't gonna learn, so it's best to have their genes cut out of the pool, so that the average is brought up.
 

AmbitV

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father and son still alive, kid will say he learned his lesson, daddy will buy him a new one after the funeral
 
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Originally posted by: SampSon
None of you can put yourself in the shoes of this father.

Actually I think I can, to the extent that I know damned well I would never, ever buy my 17-year-old son a Viper. As I said before, I literally can't think of a more dangerous new car for a teenager than a Viper.
 

Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: SampSon
None of you can put yourself in the shoes of this father.

Actually I think I can, to the extent that I know damned well I would never, ever buy my 17-year-old son a Viper. As I said before, I literally can't think of a more dangerous new car for a teenager than a Viper.
Sure, though you don't know his situation. Chances are he is a very wealthy person, probably in the millions of dollars.

Being wealthy usually takes a lot of work. What if this father neglects his son because of business? Then throwing money at the sitaution would be his style of coping with it.
 
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Originally posted by: SampSon

Sure, though you don't know his situation. Chances are he is a very wealthy person, probably in the millions of dollars.

Being wealthy usually takes a lot of work. What if this father neglects his son because of business? Then throwing money at the sitaution would be his style of coping with it.

Oh, I imagine you're right on all counts, but that doesn't, to me, excuse his negligence in buying his son such a blisteringly powerful, hard-to-tame car. There are any number of less-treacherous toys he might have bought his son if he were so inclined.

I imagine the father in this case is feeling terribly guilty right now, and appropriately so. I don't advocate his prosecution, like some others here, but IMO he must shoulder some significant guilt for his poor decision in buying his son a Viper of all things. Obviously it's possible this same accident would have happened even if his son had a mere mortal's car (say, a Civic), but there simply are not many current, street-legal cars that pose greater risk than a Viper.
 

zerocool84

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pwahahaha when i moved to sacramento, i went to a rich school, and of course everyone had rich as parents that bought their kids nice ass cars. of course they crash their cars like every month over there and their parents buy them new ones. well i had bought my 1970 VW beetle 3 years ago when i went to that school with the money i EARNED from working for $700. needless to say, i still have that car and have not crashed it yet. i know when i get older, im NEVER going to buy my kid a car. they are going to have to EARN it. and let's just say that buying your kid an F'n VIPER is not a good idea IMO.
 

OverVolt

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WTF the very first place he drove the dodge viper was on the highway? I wouldn't go on the highway with a car i wasn't very familiar with.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Amused
WTF does wealth have to do with it???

I see poor kids off themselves and hurt others through stupid actions all the time.

Good GAWD this class envy is silly.

Class envy is perfectly understandable, but in this case stupidity, not wealth, is the issue;)
 

Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: SampSon

Sure, though you don't know his situation. Chances are he is a very wealthy person, probably in the millions of dollars.

Being wealthy usually takes a lot of work. What if this father neglects his son because of business? Then throwing money at the sitaution would be his style of coping with it.

Oh, I imagine you're right on all counts, but that doesn't, to me, excuse his negligence in buying his son such a blisteringly powerful, hard-to-tame car. There are any number of less-treacherous toys he might have bought his son if he were so inclined.

I imagine the father in this case is feeling terribly guilty right now, and appropriately so. I don't advocate his prosecution, like some others here, but IMO he must shoulder some significant guilt for his poor decision in buying his son a Viper of all things. Obviously it's possible this same accident would have happened even if his son had a mere mortal's car (say, a Civic), but there simply are not many current, street-legal cars that pose greater risk than a Viper.
I'd have to agree with you on all points.