Dad turned over the keys to one of those "remote support" scmamers

Blackjack200

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So my mom was surfing the net with a macbook air (late 2014) and points Safari to a website that crashes the browser and sends a pop up window with a "Apple Support" phone number. She tells my dad, and he calls the number, and the guy convinces him to let him remote into the machine to "fix the problem". The guy force-quits Safari, relaunches, copies the serial number and points Safari to the apple support site, and pastes in the serial number and shows my dad that the 90 day support has expired. Tells my dad that he can sign up for another year of tech support. Thankfully, my dad insists on calling his son first, and I shut the whole thing down.

I'm not too worried about the initial attack that crashed Safari, I'm sure it's just a compromised website. I'm much more worried that this guy remoted into the system. I told my dad to wipe the HDD and start over, but then I kind of pulled back a bit, went into the machine and opened up activity monitor. I couldn't find anything that looked suspicious. Nothing was sending or receiving packets, no weird processes running, nothing weird loaded into memory.

I updated to the latest version of OSX, and right now I'm running a time machine backup (I know this won't help if the machine is infected, but just in case it's not now and gets infected later, it will be a much easier sell to go back to an earlier state.) I'm also going to disable flash. I told them to let me know if anything weird happens.

Am I wrong here? Am I taking a big risk by not wiping the hard drive? Anything else I can do to check if the system is infected?
 

LPCTech

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These scammers are primarily interested in selling you fake tech support and antivirus software. They generally only go into the pc to convince you to give then CC info. Although I have found PCs with tightVNC installed and them staying connected to spy. Im not super familiar with macs but I would think that if you dont see anything odd going on you are probably ok. If this turns out not to be true you can wipe. Advise the elders not to enter CC info into the pc for a while till you are sure.
 

VirtualLarry

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I wouldn't take any chances. Backup data files and wipe. They usually back-door the PC, so that they can repeat the scam yearly. And if, at that point you refuse, they do nasty things with your PC and lock you out of it.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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These scammers are primarily interested in selling you fake tech support and antivirus software. They generally only go into the pc to convince you to give then CC info. Although I have found PCs with tightVNC installed and them staying connected to spy. Im not super familiar with macs but I would think that if you dont see anything odd going on you are probably ok. If this turns out not to be true you can wipe. Advise the elders not to enter CC info into the pc for a while till you are sure.

Yep, did just that. Also told them about one-time use CC# but my dad looked at me like I sprouted another head.

I wouldn't take any chances. Backup data files and wipe. They usually back-door the PC, so that they can repeat the scam yearly. And if, at that point you refuse, they do nasty things with your PC and lock you out of it.

Believe me, if it was my machine I would have done it immediately. I gave him what I figured was a worst case scenario and he seemed okay with it. If it happens again I'll try to convince him.