Dad is suing public library because his sons 'accidentally' find lesbian lovemaking book

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: dbk
define "greatly disturbed".

Mebbe they were butch lesbians.

Originally posted by: sao123
Any christian who is not against homosexuality in any form is an embarrasment to christians everywhere.

Any religious person that cannot love another as God loves us does not deserve the label of Christian. It is not my right to tell people how to live their life, just as it is not my right to decide who enters heaven and who does not. It is God's privledge (and his alone) to judge people. It is my job to enjoy my time on earth and love everyone regardless of how they are different from me.

You... you are an embarrasment. But I love you anyway.

I'm quite certain it is possible to both love someone, and yet completely detest their lifestyle. I dont have tojudge someone and tell them how to live their life, its written down quite nicely in this little black book called a bible. This bible explicitly condemns all forms of homosexuality, and says they will absolutely not inherit the kingdom of God. It is mine and your duty to love everyone regardless of how they are different from me, and yet is is dually our duty to Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Which does not consist of turning a blind eye to a complete abhorration. Instead it consists of preaching repentence, turning from wickedness, and salvation.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Kirby64

Originally posted by: Mo0o
In all seriousness, i thought the Bible is against homosexuality? is it not?

True.

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Before someone quotes this as any sinner goes to hell, it's talking about people who do this constantly without repentance towards God.

I'm curious, what does the bible say about a man giving oral sex to his partner?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.koco.com/news/12744140/detail.html

"Earl Adams said his 14- and 16-year-old sons were "greatly disturbed" after finding the book, titled "The Whole Lesbian Sex Book." Adams said the book caused "many sleepless nights in our house."

:disgust:

"Greatly disturbed", what a load of crap! At 14 I had tabs on all the lesbian "material" I could get my hands on. Err, I mean, for shame, public library system!

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: dbk
define "greatly disturbed".

"Raw peckers from too much masturbation"
"Embarrassed when Daddy walked in on them whacking off"

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: dbk
define "greatly disturbed".

"Raw peckers from too much masturbation"
"Embarrassed when Daddy walked in on them whacking off"

"many sleepless nights in our house."

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

In an e-mail Thursday, Adams said that "God was speaking to my heart that day and helped me find the words that proved successful in removing this book from the shelf."

He said he would fight any effort to put the book back on shelves.

"Any effort to reinstate the book will be met with legal action and protests from the Christian community," Adams wrote in the e-mail.

Speaking as a Christian, let me be the first to say that this moron does NOT speak for all of us. I consider him an embarassment to Christians everywhere.

ZV

Any christian who is not against homosexuality in any form is an embarrasment to christians everywhere.

I'm against cheap romance novels too, but you don't see me calling on libraries to take them off the shelves.

I disagree with homosexuality. The same way I disagree with lying, cheating, breaking the law, and putting mayonase on hamburgers. Just because I disagree with something does NOT mean that I want all mention of it eliminated.

This is not about homosexuality. This is about censorship. What an individual does or does not do is between that person and God. It would be severely un-Christian to deny homosexuals equal standing under the law and to attempt to censor any mention of their lifestyle. I don't want to hear about their sex lives, but then again, I don't want to hear about heterosexuals' sex lives either.

You are free to be a bigot, I choose a different path. Christ accepted whores and tax collectors after all. (NOTE: I am NOT comparing homosexuality to prostitution, I am merely using this as an illustration that Christ came to be with those who were rejected by the mainstream society and who were considered by the religious elite of the day to be unclean and unworthy.)

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: sao123
Humanity can go to hell, I only care about my afterlife with Christ.

If you truly feel this way in your heart, my friend, then you need not worry for your life with Christ for one need not worry over that which will not exist.

ZV

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

My invisible friend says your invisible friend is wrong and that lesbians are, in fact, his greatest creation. He kind of agrees with your invisible friend about the male gays though... ewwwww... but he won't keep them out of the great eternal after party.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

In an e-mail Thursday, Adams said that "God was speaking to my heart that day and helped me find the words that proved successful in removing this book from the shelf."

He said he would fight any effort to put the book back on shelves.

"Any effort to reinstate the book will be met with legal action and protests from the Christian community," Adams wrote in the e-mail.

Speaking as a Christian, let me be the first to say that this moron does NOT speak for all of us. I consider him an embarassment to Christians everywhere.

ZV

Any christian who is not against homosexuality in any form is an embarrasment to christians everywhere.

I'm against cheap romance novels too, but you don't see me calling on libraries to take them off the shelves.

I disagree with homosexuality. The same way I disagree with lying, cheating, breaking the law, and putting mayonase on hamburgers. Just because I disagree with something does NOT mean that I want all mention of it eliminated.

This is not about homosexuality. This is about censorship. What an individual does or does not do is between that person and God. It would be severely un-Christian to deny homosexuals equal standing under the law and to attempt to censor any mention of their lifestyle. I don't want to hear about their sex lives, but then again, I don't want to hear about heterosexuals' sex lives either.

You are free to be a bigot, I choose a different path. Christ accepted whores and tax collectors after all. (NOTE: I am NOT comparing homosexuality to prostitution, I am merely using this as an illustration that Christ came to be with those who were rejected by the mainstream society and who were considered by the religious elite of the day to be unclean and unworthy.)

ZV

I think you make a fantastic point. Just because Christians disagree with homosexuality does not mean they should make an effort to suppress it in others. Unlike murder or stealing, homosexuality does not degrade society in any tangible way.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
From the article:

In an e-mail Thursday, Adams said that "God was speaking to my heart that day and helped me find the words that proved successful in removing this book from the shelf."

He said he would fight any effort to put the book back on shelves.

"Any effort to reinstate the book will be met with legal action and protests from the Christian community," Adams wrote in the e-mail.

Speaking as a Christian, let me be the first to say that this moron does NOT speak for all of us. I consider him an embarassment to Christians everywhere.

ZV

Any christian who is not against homosexuality in any form is an embarrasment to christians everywhere.

I'm against cheap romance novels too, but you don't see me calling on libraries to take them off the shelves.

I disagree with homosexuality. The same way I disagree with lying, cheating, breaking the law, and putting mayonase on hamburgers. Just because I disagree with something does NOT mean that I want all mention of it eliminated.

This is not about homosexuality. This is about censorship. What an individual does or does not do is between that person and God. It would be severely un-Christian to deny homosexuals equal standing under the law and to attempt to censor any mention of their lifestyle. I don't want to hear about their sex lives, but then again, I don't want to hear about heterosexuals' sex lives either.

You are free to be a bigot, I choose a different path. Christ accepted whores and tax collectors after all. (NOTE: I am NOT comparing homosexuality to prostitution, I am merely using this as an illustration that Christ came to be with those who were rejected by the mainstream society and who were considered by the religious elite of the day to be unclean and unworthy.)

ZV

A valid point... but consider this:

Christ accepted the prostitutes & tax collectors yes...
but...he didnt say, repent of your sins and continue life as you have been...
he said, Go and sin no more...

As far as cencorship, if you recall, he did tell the isrealites to destroy all the sinning nations around them... it wasnt until after Christ came and left again that gentiles could even be included... I dont think the bible entirely agrees with your anti cencorship view.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: her209
SCISSOR ME TIMBERS!!!

I can't believe I'm the only person to QFT this. :Q

- M4H

 

[BigJelly]

Sue the library...no.

But WTF is the library doing with a book like that? Makes me question why they should get money if they find it in their budget for that :|. It's like the people in dept drinking starbucks everyday or people that complain about gas prices after buying a bottle of water for $7.50 a gallon ($1.25/20 ounce).

The real story is wasted money from the people that always scream about lack of funds.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
...and putting mayonase on hamburgers.

Buddy, now you've crossed the line! *Eats his hamburger with mayo oozing out*

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
This is not about homosexuality. This is about censorship. What an individual does or does not do is between that person and God. It would be severely un-Christian to deny homosexuals equal standing under the law and to attempt to censor any mention of their lifestyle. I don't want to hear about their sex lives, but then again, I don't want to hear about heterosexuals' sex lives either.

Well, this depends. A specific book cannot be excluded simply because it's a book. Excluded from what, you may ask... why isn't this book in a specific section for adult material? Personally I haven't seen this book to know how graphic it is, but a book about lesbian sex could quite possibly be as graphic (or more so) than a playboy magazine, which is restricted to people 18 years or older. To me, I don't see this as a Christian thing, I see it as a case of neglect... but still nothing to sue over.

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You are free to be a bigot, I choose a different path. Christ accepted whores and tax collectors after all. (NOTE: I am NOT comparing homosexuality to prostitution, I am merely using this as an illustration that Christ came to be with those who were rejected by the mainstream society and who were considered by the religious elite of the day to be unclean and unworthy.)

I don't really see disliking the act of homosexuality as being a bit. Christ didn't care for these people's actions (including the people you mentioned), but they were accepted as they swore to give up their lecherous ways and atone for what they had done. I'm not the biggest fan of homosexuality, but I won't be mean toward someone for this alone. If they're a homosexual asshole (pardon my French), then I might not be so nice to them just as I wouldn't be to a heterosexual asshole, because like... in the constitution or some thing, it says all assholes are created equal.

EDIT: Forgot to remove part of the quoted text... whoops.

 

[Roguestar]

FYI didn't Jesus scrap the 10 commandments and leave us just with 2: "Love the Lord your God with all your might, with all your soul and with all your strength" and "Love one another as I have loved you"? Personally it irritates me that people calling themselves "Christian" seem to overlook this and then pick-and-choose from the Crazy Old Testament passages that condemn everything as an abomination, as and when it suits them. If you hate homosexuals so much, you have to hate men with goatees too, as the bible also says "Do not make a bald spot on the top of your head or shave the sides of your beard, for it is an abomination unto the Lord".

Incidentally, I think the state should be allowed to counter-sue this guy for being such a prude. If he didn't like the book he doesn't have to borrow it from the library. Problem solved.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
FYI didn't Jesus scrap the 10 commandments and leave us just with 2: "Love the Lord your God with all your might, with all your soul and with all your strength" and "Love one another as I have loved you"? Personally it irritates me that people calling themselves "Christian" seem to overlook this and then pick-and-choose from the Crazy Old Testament passages that condemn everything as an abomination, as and when it suits them. If you hate homosexuals so much, you have to hate men with goatees too, as the bible also says "Do not make a bald spot on the top of your head or shave the sides of your beard, for it is an abomination unto the Lord".

Incidentally, I think the state should be allowed to counter-sue this guy for being such a prude. If he didn't like the book he doesn't have to borrow it from the library. Problem solved.

most of what Christians believe comes from the writings of Paul and many believe that Paul was and is a false prophet. His writing turned nearly everything that Jesus said about love, peace, tolerance around to just the opposite. Jesus says nothing about being gay is a sin, that comes from Paul.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Perhaps this will come up in a future episode of "The Simpsons," starring the Flanders kids. :laugh:

 

[Fraggable]

Originally posted by: Citrix

most of what Christians believe comes from the writings of Paul and many believe that Paul was and is a false prophet. His writing turned nearly everything that Jesus said about love, peace, tolerance around to just the opposite. Jesus says nothing about being gay is a sin, that comes from Paul.

'Many believe' doesn't make it a fact. I've never heard anyone say that Paul was a false prophet. Do you think Jesus would have kept him around him all the time if he wasn't real?

And Jesus did say that homosexuality is sin. If you missed that part then you probably missed most of the first half of the OT. Of course I'm assuming you've read the Bible since you're commenting on it.

 

[Roguestar]

Yet man is fallible, and man's interpretations are fallible. If you're a christian you should live not by what man says, but what Jesus taught.

 

[K1052]

We all know how instructional books about lesbian sex just jump off the library shelves and into the hands of your teen sons all by themselves.