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Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Remember kids, being charged with something doesnt mean anything. I doubt anyone would convict. He'll plea to a lesser charge or it will be dropped.

what if the daughter was screaming, "Dad, don't bash him, he's my boyfriend!" and this prick went ahead and hit the kid on the head with a metal pipe..? if something like that happened, then this guy is a dangerous, controlling freak who represents a serious threat to the safety of children and they should really throw the book at him. :|
Idiotic comment from someone who obviously doesn't have kids and especially a daughter.

1. The little punk knew damn well he wasn't supposed to be in that house, ESPECIALLY at 4am.

2. The dad didn't even know the daughter had a boyfriend, much less one that was inside HIS HOUSE at 4am, screwing his daughter.

3. It was 4am!! How coherent do you think the dad was when he got up at that hour? He finds some punk in his daughter's room, and runs his ass out of his house.

4. The punk's dad even agrees with me and the girl's dad. He didn't even want the cops to press charges.

5. You "what if"ing of stuff is irrelevant....we don't know if any of that happened.

edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.
Not like they even had sense enough to do it after school, when the dad wasn't home....no, they had to do it while the parents were home. THAT is why there's an age of consent.....kids that young don't have ANY sense and aren't capable of making these decisions on their own. They need someone else to do it for them.

To bad you're not factoring the part of the daughter being a complete slut. Then again.....hmmm......I wonder who's idea it was to invite the kid over so she could get screwed?

Doesn't matter.
Man wakes up at 4am.
Finds boy in daughter's room.
Boy gets his ass kicked.

Daughter's sluttyness is irrelevant. Not a factor. She knew the boy shouldn't have been there, and the boy knew he shouldn't have been there. He knew he was taking his chances.
 

m1ldslide1

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
he got arrested for that? IMHO he was protecting his property (his house not his daughter)

This. How the hell was he supposed to really know in a darkened bedroom that his young daughter wasn't being assaulted? Charges should be dropped quickly..
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Remember kids, being charged with something doesnt mean anything. I doubt anyone would convict. He'll plea to a lesser charge or it will be dropped.

what if the daughter was screaming, "Dad, don't bash him, he's my boyfriend!" and this prick went ahead and hit the kid on the head with a metal pipe..? if something like that happened, then this guy is a dangerous, controlling freak who represents a serious threat to the safety of children and they should really throw the book at him. :|
Idiotic comment from someone who obviously doesn't have kids and especially a daughter.

1. The little punk knew damn well he wasn't supposed to be in that house, ESPECIALLY at 4am.

2. The dad didn't even know the daughter had a boyfriend, much less one that was inside HIS HOUSE at 4am, screwing his daughter.

3. It was 4am!! How coherent do you think the dad was when he got up at that hour? He finds some punk in his daughter's room, and runs his ass out of his house.

4. The punk's dad even agrees with me and the girl's dad. He didn't even want the cops to press charges.

5. You "what if"ing of stuff is irrelevant....we don't know if any of that happened.

edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.
Not like they even had sense enough to do it after school, when the dad wasn't home....no, they had to do it while the parents were home. THAT is why there's an age of consent.....kids that young don't have ANY sense and aren't capable of making these decisions on their own. They need someone else to do it for them.

To bad you're not factoring the part of the daughter being a complete slut. Then again.....hmmm......I wonder who's idea it was to invite the kid over so she could get screwed?

Doesn't matter.
Man wakes up at 4am.
Finds boy in daughter's room.
Boy gets his ass kicked.

Daughter's sluttyness is irrelevant. Not a factor. She knew the boy shouldn't have been there, and the boy knew he shouldn't have been there. He knew he was taking his chances.

Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if the slut daughter was defending her BF while dad was busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter or not.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Originally posted by: rudeguy
he got arrested for that? IMHO he was protecting his property (his house not his daughter)

This. How the hell was he supposed to really know in a darkened bedroom that his young daughter wasn't being assaulted? Charges should be dropped quickly..

I highly doubt the daughter remained silent in during the beating. No doubt she was crying and telling her father that he was her BF and that he should stop with his assault.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.

I'm so sorry, but various boys and men are going to put their penises in your little darling's vagina - get over it. :) it doesn't give you an excuse to break the law and employ physical violence.
If he's in my house he's fair game. Especially at 4am.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if slut daughter was defending her BF while dad is busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter.
No, it's not relevant, because the the boy KNOWS he's not supposed to be there, regardless of what the daughter is telling him. He KNOWS he's risking some big trouble if he gets caught.

All the rest is speculation....we don't know whether the daughter tried to stop her father or not.

Again...it was 4am!!!! The father could not possibly have had all his wits at that ungodly hour.

Groggy, get up, stumble to the door, let the dog out, hear something in your daughter's room, check on her, and some teenage punk is in there.

You can't expect him to be rational at that point. I'm willing to bet that if this goes to trial, he'll be acquitted.

AND, the boy's own father didn't want charges pressed.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.

I'm so sorry, but various boys and men are going to put their penises in your little darling's vagina - get over it. :) it doesn't give you an excuse to break the law and employ physical violence.
If he's in my house he's fair game. Especially at 4am.

False
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.

I'm so sorry, but various boys and men are going to put their penises in your little darling's vagina - get over it. :) it doesn't give you an excuse to break the law and employ physical violence.
If he's in my house he's fair game. Especially at 4am.

False
Wanna bet? Come in my house this morning and let me catch you.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if slut daughter was defending her BF while dad is busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter.
No, it's not relevant, because the the boy KNOWS he's not supposed to be there, regardless of what the daughter is telling him. He KNOWS he's risking some big trouble if he gets caught.

All the rest is speculation....we don't know whether the daughter tried to stop her father or not.

Again...it was 4am!!!! The father could not possibly have had all his wits at that ungodly hour.

Groggy, get up, stumble to the door, let the dog out, hear something in your daughter's room, check on her, and some teenage punk is in there.

You can't expect him to be rational at that point. I'm willing to bet that if this goes to trial, he'll be acquitted.

AND, the boy's own father didn't want charges pressed.

Him not having permission from the father to be there is not grounds to be smacked over the head. He obviously was let into the home by someone and that was the slut daughter. Was he trespassing against the father's wishes? Yes but it by no means gives the father any grounds to attack the kid when he was let into the home by the daughter. The issue is the assault which by no means is not clear as to what happened. Since the news story is not very detailed there is very little anyone can say in regards to the actually facts of the case and the events of that night. All we can do is assume.

I will assume that odds are the daughter said stuff to the cops and acknowledged that she let the boy in and that he was there at her request. If he were a actually intruding against the slut daughters wishes into her room then there would be no case but he wasn't. He was there because she invited him into her room and subsequently the home. The other issue of contention would be whether the father assaulted the boy because he thought he was an intruder or because he was upset that his daughter was a slut and was getting porked by this kid which he knew according to the article. One of those can be justified under the law the other can not.
 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if slut daughter was defending her BF while dad is busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter.
No, it's not relevant, because the the boy KNOWS he's not supposed to be there, regardless of what the daughter is telling him. He KNOWS he's risking some big trouble if he gets caught.

All the rest is speculation....we don't know whether the daughter tried to stop her father or not.

Again...it was 4am!!!! The father could not possibly have had all his wits at that ungodly hour.

Groggy, get up, stumble to the door, let the dog out, hear something in your daughter's room, check on her, and some teenage punk is in there.

You can't expect him to be rational at that point. I'm willing to bet that if this goes to trial, he'll be acquitted.

AND, the boy's own father didn't want charges pressed.

Him not having permission from the father to be there is not grounds to be smacked over the head. He obviously was let into the home by someone and that was the slut daughter. Was he trespassing against the father's wishes? Yes but it by no means gives the father any grounds to attack the kid when he was let into the home by the daughter. The issue is the assault which by no means is not clear as to what happened. Since the news story is not very detailed there is very little anyone can say in regards to the actually facts of the case and the events of that night. All we can do is assume.

I will assume that odds are the daughter said stuff to the cops and acknowledged that she let the boy in and that he was there at her request. If he were a actually intruding against the slut daughters wishes into her room then there would be no case but he wasn't. He was there because she invited him into her room and subsequently the home. The other issue of contention would be whether the father assaulted the boy because he thought he was an intruder or because he was upset that his daughter was a slut and was getting porked by this kid which he knew according to the article. One of those can be justified under the law the other can not.

Does she own the house?

Nope.

You don't have kids, obviously. You would have a primal instinct to protect them, and that probably took over - caused by him TRESPASSING! If you don't have the permission of the property owner, it's trespassing.
 

Pacfanweb

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When he heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom Thursday morning and saw a stranger standing naked on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe. He then chased the teen out the front door and called police.

Says nothing about whether the girl was even in the room....she might have been in the bathroom.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if slut daughter was defending her BF while dad is busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter.
No, it's not relevant, because the the boy KNOWS he's not supposed to be there, regardless of what the daughter is telling him. He KNOWS he's risking some big trouble if he gets caught.

All the rest is speculation....we don't know whether the daughter tried to stop her father or not.

Again...it was 4am!!!! The father could not possibly have had all his wits at that ungodly hour.

Groggy, get up, stumble to the door, let the dog out, hear something in your daughter's room, check on her, and some teenage punk is in there.

You can't expect him to be rational at that point. I'm willing to bet that if this goes to trial, he'll be acquitted.

AND, the boy's own father didn't want charges pressed.

Him not having permission from the father to be there is not grounds to be smacked over the head. He obviously was let into the home by someone and that was the slut daughter. Was he trespassing against the father's wishes? Yes but it by no means gives the father any grounds to attack the kid when he was let into the home by the daughter. The issue is the assault which by no means is not clear as to what happened. Since the news story is not very detailed there is very little anyone can say in regards to the actually facts of the case and the events of that night. All we can do is assume.

I will assume that odds are the daughter said stuff to the cops and acknowledged that she let the boy in and that he was there at her request. If he were a actually intruding against the slut daughters wishes into her room then there would be no case but he wasn't. He was there because she invited him into her room and subsequently the home. The other issue of contention would be whether the father assaulted the boy because he thought he was an intruder or because he was upset that his daughter was a slut and was getting porked by this kid which he knew according to the article. One of those can be justified under the law the other can not.

Does she own the house?

Nope.

You don't have kids, obviously. You would have a primal instinct to protect them, and that probably took over - caused by him TRESPASSING! If you don't have the permission of the property owner, it's trespassing.

Primal instinct? haha he was MAD, when he went in the room he knew what was happening. The boy didn't get beat because he was in the mans house without premission. He got knocked in the head because the father was pissed as shit that his 15 year old daughter was having sex. He was shocked and let his rage take over, he wasn't protecting her at all, he was taking out his anger on the boy. As others have said the daughter was obviously screaming "no dad he's my BF stop!'

Thew dad deserves to be locked up, yeah the boy was taking a risk but the Father acted out of nothing but anger don't give me this primal instinct crap.

The father overreacted badly and I hope the judge throws the book at him.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
When he heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom Thursday morning and saw a stranger standing naked on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe. He then chased the teen out the front door and called police.

Says nothing about whether the girl was even in the room....she might have been in the bathroom.

It doesn't matter if the girl was in the room, hanging from the guy's arm as he beat the kid.

The guy perceived a threat to his property and/or family and took action.




Bet that kid doesn't come to dinner anytime soon.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Actually it is relevant because if the boy was lured into the house by the slut daughter then it counts in the boys favor. Also if slut daughter was defending her BF while dad is busy trying to smack him over the head with a pipe it further proves that the father acted out of blind rage and didn't care about why the boy was there and whether or not he was invited into the home by the daughter.
No, it's not relevant, because the the boy KNOWS he's not supposed to be there, regardless of what the daughter is telling him. He KNOWS he's risking some big trouble if he gets caught.

All the rest is speculation....we don't know whether the daughter tried to stop her father or not.

Again...it was 4am!!!! The father could not possibly have had all his wits at that ungodly hour.

Groggy, get up, stumble to the door, let the dog out, hear something in your daughter's room, check on her, and some teenage punk is in there.

You can't expect him to be rational at that point. I'm willing to bet that if this goes to trial, he'll be acquitted.

AND, the boy's own father didn't want charges pressed.

Him not having permission from the father to be there is not grounds to be smacked over the head. He obviously was let into the home by someone and that was the slut daughter. Was he trespassing against the father's wishes? Yes but it by no means gives the father any grounds to attack the kid when he was let into the home by the daughter. The issue is the assault which by no means is not clear as to what happened. Since the news story is not very detailed there is very little anyone can say in regards to the actually facts of the case and the events of that night. All we can do is assume.

I will assume that odds are the daughter said stuff to the cops and acknowledged that she let the boy in and that he was there at her request. If he were a actually intruding against the slut daughters wishes into her room then there would be no case but he wasn't. He was there because she invited him into her room and subsequently the home. The other issue of contention would be whether the father assaulted the boy because he thought he was an intruder or because he was upset that his daughter was a slut and was getting porked by this kid which he knew according to the article. One of those can be justified under the law the other can not.

Does she own the house?

Nope.

You don't have kids, obviously. You would have a primal instinct to protect them, and that probably took over - caused by him TRESPASSING! If you don't have the permission of the property owner, it's trespassing.

Primal instinct? haha he was MAD, when he went in the room he knew what was happening. The boy didn't get beat because he was in the mans house without premission. He got knocked in the head because the father was pissed as shit that his 15 year old daughter was having sex. He was shocked and let his rage take over, he wasn't protecting her at all, he was taking out his anger on the boy. As others have said the daughter was obviously screaming "no dad he's my BF stop!'

Thew dad deserves to be locked up, yeah the boy was taking a risk but the Father acted out of nothing but anger don't give me this primal instinct crap.

The father overreacted badly and I hope the judge throws the book at him.

Wow....I didn't know you were a witness.
 

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I'd say blame goes 50/50 not knowing any more facts than what the article says.
 

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I'm amazed at all the people defending the Dad. He has a teenage daughter. As a father you have to adapt to the age of your children and what they are going to do. That is your responsibility as a parent.

A dad should know that teenage daughters (or sons) will be looking to do things with other teenagers. You can tell her to never do so (good luck), or try to help her with decisions (talk about it, provide condoms, try to get the boys invited for dinner), or you can stick your head in the sand and pretend it will never happen.

Reacting to basically normal behavior with a swinging pipe is dangerous, and illegal, and shouldn't be condoned.

Now - I'll admit we don't know the details. Perhaps the daugher was asleep at the time, or in the bathroom, and rape was the first thing the Dad thought about. In that case, it could have just been a mistake. We don't know what the boy or daughter said or any of the circumstances.

But if the girl was there then I think the dad has a responsibility to figure out what is going on and deal with it without a pipe.

Yes, it is 4am, but he has a daughter, he is a dad. It's a teenage boy. This isn't a burgler with a bag and a flashlight.

I have two daughers, 3 and 5, and have a long way to go before I have to deal with problems like this.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Originally posted by: rudeguy
he got arrested for that? IMHO he was protecting his property (his house not his daughter)

This. How the hell was he supposed to really know in a darkened bedroom that his young daughter wasn't being assaulted? Charges should be dropped quickly..

I highly doubt the daughter remained silent in during the beating. No doubt she was crying and telling her father that he was her BF and that he should stop with his assault.

He cracked him once as far as I know and then just chased him away. If he kept beating him to a pulp then that would be different.

Whatever his daughters protests were doesn't trump his RIGHT to chase the guy off his property.
 

Cogman

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The kid was on his property uninvited and unannounced. If a burglar walks into your house You have a legal right to shoot him. What is the difference between that and the kid screwing the guys daughter? If someone enters your house but doesn't take anything it still looks pretty dang suspicious and you would get off if you shot at them.

Cracking the kid without warning may have been unwarranted (for the legal system to decide). But honestly this is a case of a break-in anyways.
 

Fritzo

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Oh man, a good lawyer could SO turn that arround as trespassing and/or home invasion and maybe even rape on that kid.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Cogman
The kid was on his property uninvited and unannounced. If a burglar walks into your house You have a legal right to shoot him. What is the difference between that and the kid screwing the guys daughter? If someone enters your house but doesn't take anything it still looks pretty dang suspicious and you would get off if you shot at them.

Cracking the kid without warning may have been unwarranted (for the legal system to decide). But honestly this is a case of a break-in anyways.

How in the world can you say he broke in? :confused: Apparently the daughter let him in.
 

sierrita

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Originally posted by: thepd7



Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer


Seriously, did none of you guys go sneaking around to a high-school chicks place as teenagers? It's pretty normal.

Actually I didn't. And if I did I would be surprised if I got my ass beat for it.


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So was this guy, what's your point?
 

dawp

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Should have killed him. Dead people cant press charges nor can they testify against you.

No, but his daughter could and a murder/manslaughter is not something I would want on my record.

I it was my daughter (she's 19), I wouldn't have attacked the boy, I'd be upset no doubt, but I would have a talk with them both. make sure they used condoms, and told him, under no circumstances will there be any more late night visits with her.


And she probably didn't tell her dad because he's a hot head and would react in the way he did.