Dad chases nude boy from daughter's room with pipe

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
So if the girl's (girl) friend was hanging out in the room - naked - could he still beat her bloody and get away with it? Or if the guy had been fully clothed, probably listening to an iPod while the girl was in the bathroom, could he still beat him bloody and get away with it?

If a new friend (say from a new job) was hanging out in my room and my Dad walked in, could he beat the crap out of him assuming he was an intruder?

are you a girl?

I actually meant it towards the 'trespassing' comment. Should have quoted that dude.

I don't know much about the law but I don't think the guy has a defense. "The thought of precious daughter having sexual relations hurt my brain so I whacked the kid" can't be a good defense. Or can it?
 

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"Sir, I understand you're angry about the situation but why blame him for the fact your daughter is sleeping with some dude(s).
 

Eli

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:laugh:

Closed the wound with staples? :shocked:

That's a bit more than a whack....
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
In TX, the Dad would have been able to shoot him in the back and get away with it.

Way to inject your wacko politics into this, liberal.
 

Eli

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Ok, I just read the thread.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? He should have been charged!

They were both 15. There is no statutory rape, there is no crime here besides the dad's assault with a pipe. He could have been killed.

Granted, I understand the circumstances... 3am, not knowing your daughter has a bf. However, it is your responsibility to identify your target before taking possibly deadly defensive measures. My guess is that he didn't know his daughter had a bf because of the way he would have reacted.....

Think the daughter just sat there and stared? What about the "Wait, NO! wait dad wait!"? lol... come on folks.

It's a tough situation, and understandable, but I will tell you one thing.. IF the kid had been killed or had brain damage or something, you bet they would press charges.
 

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?
 

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Originally posted by: Eli
Ok, I just read the thread.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? He should have been charged!

They were both 15. There is no statutory rape, there is no crime here besides the dad's assault with a pipe. He could have been killed.

Granted, I understand the circumstances... 3am, not knowing your daughter has a bf. However, it is your responsibility to identify your target before taking possibly deadly defensive measures. My guess is that he didn't know his daughter had a bf because of the way he would have reacted.....

Think the daughter just sat there and stared? What about the "Wait, NO! wait dad wait!"? lol... come on folks.

It's a tough situation, and understandable, but I will tell you one thing.. IF the kid had been killed or had brain damage or something, you bet they would press charges.

here is some cliffs. Your daughter is considered a minor. You hear someone else in her room. You SHOULD react to this and ask questions later.

I don't agree with how people list sexuality but I can understand how this would happen. The dad was within his legal means.

What is your intent in your post...your kid is just a kid and they should be able to do what they want?

 

mugs

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Eli
Ok, I just read the thread.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? He should have been charged!

They were both 15. There is no statutory rape, there is no crime here besides the dad's assault with a pipe. He could have been killed.

Granted, I understand the circumstances... 3am, not knowing your daughter has a bf. However, it is your responsibility to identify your target before taking possibly deadly defensive measures. My guess is that he didn't know his daughter had a bf because of the way he would have reacted.....

Think the daughter just sat there and stared? What about the "Wait, NO! wait dad wait!"? lol... come on folks.

It's a tough situation, and understandable, but I will tell you one thing.. IF the kid had been killed or had brain damage or something, you bet they would press charges.

here is some cliffs. Your daughter is considered a minor. You hear someone else in her room. You SHOULD react to this and ask questions later.

I don't agree with how people list sexuality but I can understand how this would happen. The dad was within his legal means.

What is your intent in your post...your kid is just a kid and they should be able to do what they want?

I think the intent of his post is that your kid doing what they want does not justify beating "what they want" with a pipe.

Consider the possibility that the father knew the boyfriend, but didn't know he was the girl's boyfriend. Consider the possibility that the father did not believe his daughter was being raped (she obviously didn't scream). Consider the possibility that the father really did just hit the kid because he was screwing the daughter. If that is the case, which may be apparent from things the father said during the altercation, then he deserves to be held accountable for what he did. The article lacked enough detail to determine whether his actions were justified.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Sabot
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
It likely does, you just don't hear about it.

edit: If my son gets caught doing the same at that age, I'll consider him lucky to come out of it with only some stitches. Oh, and he and I would have to have a talk about "time and place".
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: NFS4
Both are 15:

A Deltona father ended up in jail Thursday after finding his daughter's teenage boyfriend naked in the girl's bedroom and hitting him with a pipe, sheriff's officials said.

Raul Colon, 45, didn't even know his daughter had a boyfriend -- or that the youngster had been sneaking into the home for more than a year. So when he heard noises coming from his daughter's room early Thursday and saw a naked stranger standing on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe he had taken from the garage, hitting the 15-year-old, according to a Volusia County sheriff's report.

Colon was charged with aggravated battery on a child but was released from jail later Thursday on $10,000 bail, a booking officer said. No one answered the phone at Colon's residence Thursday for comment.

According to the report, Colon heard the noise in his daughter's room when he got up at 4 a.m. to let his dog out, as he does every morning.

Colon told deputies he chased Lucas Contreres through the kitchen, living room and through the front door and out into the street and called 9-1-1.

Colon's daughter later told deputies she had been seeing Contreres for 18 months but did not tell her father about the relationship. Contreres had sneaked in through a bedroom window at 3 a.m. Thursday to have sex with her, the 15-year-old girl told deputies.

Contreres was found at Florida Hospital Fish Memorial in Orange City where he received staples to close cuts on his head. His injuries were not life-threatening, deputies said.

Contreres told deputies a similar account to Colon's. He said Colon came into the room and started swinging at him with the metal pipe. He jumped out of the bed and began running through the home to get away from Colon. Once outside, he jumped on his bike and went home. His sister later took him to the hospital, deputies said.

Although Contreres' father said he wasn't sure whether he wanted to press charges, deputies took Colon to jail anyway.

My knee-jerk comment was correct.

Yeah, except it's not Contreres' father who would bring charges- it's the State.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.
 

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Originally posted by: racolvin
3am with my 15yr old daughter? Oh yea, he's ripe for a beatdown .. he's raping my daughter, since she's can't legally give consent and I damn sure didn't invite him in my home at that hour

Which is why she went ahead and asked him to sneak in so he could fuck her nice and proper like she wanted to be fucked. I think people are glossing over the fact that the daughter in this case was not A.) being raped...B.) Probably trying to defend her bf as her father beat him. Of course next time I am pretty sure she'll just sneak out to get fucked.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.

It's a good thing your opinion doesn't mean anything.
 

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
What's the age of consent in USA? Over here it's 16, so 15 is borderline (ie, stat. rape is still on the table but most people are more reasonable than that).

Depends on the state.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.

It's a good thing your opinion doesn't mean anything.

Nor does yours. :thumbsup:
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.

It's a good thing your opinion doesn't mean anything.

Nor does yours. :thumbsup:

Of course it does. Mine is the only one that matters.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.

It's a good thing your opinion doesn't mean anything.

Nor does yours. :thumbsup:

Of course it does. Mine is the only one that matters.

It seems only in your head.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: ghostman
No mention of the age of these kids. Not that it matters if I were the dad. I'd club a 13 year old or 19 year old regardless.

this
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: OdiN
Uhm....I don't think that he should be charged. Imagine if you were a father and you heard noises and found some stranger that you didn't know in your daughters room on top of her. What would you do? What if he had broken in and was raping her or something?

becuse common sense says that it is far more likely that his daughter is having sex and not being raped...


Im not in favor of teens having sex, but im even less in favor of uninformed parents having excessive kneejerk reactions. What happened to asking questions before chasing him out with a pipe?

What happened to someone knocking on a door and asking for permission to come into the house?

The kid did not have permission obviously - not from an adult - so as far as I'm concerned, that's trespassing.

As far as I'm concerned, you're an idiot.

It's a good thing your opinion doesn't mean anything.

Nor does yours. :thumbsup:

Of course it does. Mine is the only one that matters.

It seems only in your head.

Who's talking to you?
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Remember kids, being charged with something doesnt mean anything. I doubt anyone would convict. He'll plea to a lesser charge or it will be dropped.

what if the daughter was screaming, "Dad, don't bash him, he's my boyfriend!" and this prick went ahead and hit the kid on the head with a metal pipe..? if something like that happened, then this guy is a dangerous, controlling freak who represents a serious threat to the safety of children and they should really throw the book at him. :|
Idiotic comment from someone who obviously doesn't have kids and especially a daughter.

1. The little punk knew damn well he wasn't supposed to be in that house, ESPECIALLY at 4am.

2. The dad didn't even know the daughter had a boyfriend, much less one that was inside HIS HOUSE at 4am, screwing his daughter.

3. It was 4am!! How coherent do you think the dad was when he got up at that hour? He finds some punk in his daughter's room, and runs his ass out of his house.

4. The punk's dad even agrees with me and the girl's dad. He didn't even want the cops to press charges.

5. You "what if"ing of stuff is irrelevant....we don't know if any of that happened.

edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.
Not like they even had sense enough to do it after school, when the dad wasn't home....no, they had to do it while the parents were home. THAT is why there's an age of consent.....kids that young don't have ANY sense and aren't capable of making these decisions on their own. They need someone else to do it for them.
 

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Remember kids, being charged with something doesnt mean anything. I doubt anyone would convict. He'll plea to a lesser charge or it will be dropped.

what if the daughter was screaming, "Dad, don't bash him, he's my boyfriend!" and this prick went ahead and hit the kid on the head with a metal pipe..? if something like that happened, then this guy is a dangerous, controlling freak who represents a serious threat to the safety of children and they should really throw the book at him. :|
Idiotic comment from someone who obviously doesn't have kids and especially a daughter.

1. The little punk knew damn well he wasn't supposed to be in that house, ESPECIALLY at 4am.

2. The dad didn't even know the daughter had a boyfriend, much less one that was inside HIS HOUSE at 4am, screwing his daughter.

3. It was 4am!! How coherent do you think the dad was when he got up at that hour? He finds some punk in his daughter's room, and runs his ass out of his house.

4. The punk's dad even agrees with me and the girl's dad. He didn't even want the cops to press charges.

5. You "what if"ing of stuff is irrelevant....we don't know if any of that happened.

edit: And yeah, any man is a "dangerous, controlling freak" for running some teenage punk out of his house at Four Fucking A.M. when he catches him screwing his daughter.
Not like they even had sense enough to do it after school, when the dad wasn't home....no, they had to do it while the parents were home. THAT is why there's an age of consent.....kids that young don't have ANY sense and aren't capable of making these decisions on their own. They need someone else to do it for them.

To bad you're not factoring the part of the daughter being a complete slut. Then again.....hmmm......I wonder who's idea it was to invite the kid over so she could get screwed?