Cyclist killed while holding the headrest of a car

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SickBeast

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Here in Toronto everyone is talking about this cyclist who was killed after a road rage incident. Apparently the former Governer General of Ontario (even more powerful than a state governor in the US) cut off a cyclist in his convertable SAAB. The cyclist then went up to his car screaming at him and grabbed onto the headrest and perhaps even the steering wheel. The driver of the SAAB then floored it, and the cyclist hit several objects, was run over, and killed.

The driver of the car has now been charged with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle.

Here is a link to the story.

I'm thinking that the driver of the SAAB had to have been a complete asshole in this situation. The cyclist would not have gone after him unless he had done something real bad. Then, to have killed the cyclist, the SAAB driver had to have wanted to do it. He must have been in a horrible mood or something. To me, even if you hit the gas when the cyclist grabs you car, you hit the brakes right afterward to throw him loose and make sure he doesn't get badly hurt.

I hope this dipshit gets thrown in jail for a long time. I'm sure he power tripped while in government, and he probably did it again in his stupid midlife-crisis-mobile of a car. :thumbsdown:

*edit* Here is an alternate link - the Canadian web servers seem to be overloaded by this story.
 
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A soft answer turneth away wrath; But a grievous word stirreth up anger.
 
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If the cyclist started grabbing onto my steering wheel I might floor it too. Sure the SAAB driver was in the wrong cutting off the cyclist, but the cyclist was also in the wrong grabbing the guys steering wheel.

FYI site has error for me so didn't read the entire story.
 
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SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
A soft answer turneth away wrath; But a grievous word stirreth up anger.
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You know what architects and builders say? Talk is cheap.

Lawyers probably would take issue with that, but despite changing careers, I still hold true to that axiom. Actions speak louder than words. It's in the Bible as well.
 
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Edit- After further review it sounds like the collision happened after the SAAB cut-off the cyclist.

So it sounds like the driver of the SAAB basically ran the guy down.
 
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The cyclists here in Toronto are all protesting now, blocking off Bloor Street which is one of our two biggest main streets (Yonge being the other).

As someone who has lived downtown for sometime while driving to work every day, I will say that the cyclists are overall insane and are not enforced properly by the police. I have been told by a source that our mayor does not like cars and is having the police go after people who live and drive downtown. IMO this has fueled a toxic situation where cyclists who pay no gas tax to improve our roads are even getting their own dedicated lanes, causing massive gridlock and smog for local residents.

TBH here in Toronto we probably have the worst local government of any city in North America right now. What I find disconcerting is that our police force is a puppet to them and they play along. :(
 
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SickBeast

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Originally posted by: jackace
Edit- After further review it sounds like the collision happened after the SAAB cut-off the cyclist.

So it sounds like the driver of the SAAB basically ran the guy down.
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If that's true then I hope the driver of the SAAB rots in hell.
 
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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: jackace
Edit- After further review it sounds like the collision happened after the SAAB cut-off the cyclist.

So it sounds like the driver of the SAAB basically ran the guy down.
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If that's true then I hope the driver of the SAAB rots in hell.
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They said "the busy road was the scene of a verbal altercation and collision between a man driving a Saab convertible and a cyclist that resulted in the biker clinging to the car as it drove away."
 
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Originally posted by: jackace
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: jackace
Edit- After further review it sounds like the collision happened after the SAAB cut-off the cyclist.

So it sounds like the driver of the SAAB basically ran the guy down.
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If that's true then I hope the driver of the SAAB rots in hell.
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They said "the busy road was the scene of a verbal altercation and collision between a man driving a Saab convertible and a cyclist that resulted in the biker clinging to the car as it drove away."
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What's he gonna do, let go? :confused:
 
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nageov3t

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if someone reached their hands into my car... yeah, I'd feel threatened and hit the gas.
 
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Seems terribly one-sided. Yah if someone reached into my car I'd flip out too, not saying the SAAB guy isn't an asshole, but the cyclist is probably a punk too. Where I live cyclists are total douchers so I'm a little biased.
 
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Doesn't sound that cut and dried to me. From the article
"The Globe and Mail reported that the cyclist involved in the collision had been drinking, and had been investigated by police earlier in the evening when an ex-girlfriend called police. The Globe said the man was not charged in connection with the drinking."

Why blame the car driver for the beginning of the altercation? Always better to wait till the whole story comes out.
 
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Originally posted by: dammitgibs
Seems terribly one-sided. Yah if someone reached into my car I'd flip out too, not saying the SAAB guy isn't an asshole, but the cyclist is probably a punk too. Where I live cyclists are total douchers so I'm a little biased.
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Yeah we kind of have a problem with cyclists here too. Because of it we are getting more bike lanes. As it stands many of the cyclists ride on the sidewalks to avoid traffic, but then want to cross the street like they were riding in an actual lane of traffic. We have had multiple accidents because of this very thing.
 
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Originally posted by: jackace
Originally posted by: dammitgibs
Seems terribly one-sided. Yah if someone reached into my car I'd flip out too, not saying the SAAB guy isn't an asshole, but the cyclist is probably a punk too. Where I live cyclists are total douchers so I'm a little biased.
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Yeah we kind of have a problem with cyclists here too. Because of it we are getting more bike lanes. As it stands many of the cyclists ride on the sidewalks to avoid traffic, but then want to cross the street like they were riding in an actual lane of traffic. We have had multiple accidents because of this very thing.
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Lots of rural roads just outside of town here, just 2 lane roads with no shoulders, but this city is really good about building bike paths, lots of great bike paths all over the place, and some bicyclists still insist on riding on the road like they're too good for the paths that were made, that makes my blood boil.
 
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The problem with cyclists is that they follow the rules as a car when it suites them, act like pedestrians when it suites them, or simply disregard the rules of the road at their choosing.

Ever try and drive near a college campus. You better stop at every intersection even in the cross street has a stop sign and you don't because cyclists simply don't care and think that they are above the rules of the road.

Going back to the OP, I think the driver of the car was well within their right to try and remove himself from the situation. You do not know the intentions of the cyclist. Who knows, the cyclist could of had a knife and anyone crazy enough to reach into a car would be crazy enough to do other things.

The driver simply could not have known the intentions of the cyclist and did why they felt they had to do to protect them self and get them self out of the situation.
 
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SickBeast

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They're now saying that they have surveillance tape which suggests that the cyclist went at the driver and was actually holding onto the driver. The cyclist had just had a big fight with his girlfriend, and had recently been arrested for something. I take back most of what I said about the SAAB driver (not all).
 
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Originally posted by: SickBeast
They're now saying that they have surveillance tape which suggests that the cyclist went at the driver and was actually holding onto the driver. The cyclist had just had a big fight with his girlfriend, and had recently been arrested for something. I take back most of what I said about the SAAB driver (not all).
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way to jump to conclusions initially. :roll:

 
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piasabird

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Well if a cyclist is driving on a roadway he better be able to stop if a car in front of him going faster, decides to make a turn. It is not illegal for a car to turn off a roadway. You almost have to be at the location in person to determine what was going on. Cyclists tend to be big liars that purchased bicycles that cost more than $1,000.00 and expect people to adore them in their cute little pants. If you are going to drive in traffic with the big boys you better be able to handle it. Sometimes bicyclists dont want to slow down when someone else has the right of way and get run over.
 
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