Cybersickness - Munchausen by Internet Breeds a Generation of Fakers

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Cybersickness - Munchausen by Internet Breeds a Generation of Fakers

Culture/Society News Keywords: DEEP IN THE HURTGEN FOREST
Source: Village Voice
Published: 6/27/01 Author: Francine Russo


Over nearly three years, from 1998 to 2000, a woman?let's call her
Anna?posted to an online support group for people with mental
illness. To the larger circle of readers, she acted mostly as
friendly counselor. But to a select few, she e-mailed stories of
escalating catastrophes. Her husband and two children had perished in
a plane crash, she wrote. As a kid, her father had molested her, and
she had suffered multiple personality disorder. Finally, she told her
trusted?and trusting?confidants that she had just been diagnosed with
leukemia.

Gwen Grabb, a psychotherapy intern and mother of three in Los
Angeles, says the group believed Anna because she took on the role of
helping others, revealing her own difficulties much later, and to an
intimate audience. "She was very bright," recalls Grabb. "She was
very supportive and kind. One day, she started telling me about `the
crash,' what they found in the black box, how you could hear her
daughter screaming. I had known her a year. I believed her."

But as the tales became more elaborate and grotesque, Grabb grew
suspicious. Along with another group member?Pam Cohen, a bereavement
counselor in the Mid-Atlantic region?she did some research and
discovered Anna was making it up. It was a shock to all, but worse
than that to Cohen. "It is like an emotional rape," she says. People
may have been upset over the online life and fatal cancer of the
fictional Kaycee, whose creator admitted last month she'd invented
the high school character for expressive purposes. But that was
geared to a general audience, however easily suckered. Pretenders
like Anna hurt a much more vulnerable group?folks who may be
seriously ill and are seeking help.

The Internet was made for such fakers, says Dr. Marc D. Feldman, a
psychiatrist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham and an expert
on Munchausen syndrome and factitious disorder. People like these, he
explains, suffer from a form of Munchausen, a condition in which they
either feign illness or victimization, or actually induce illness or
injury in order to gain sympathy and become the center of attention.
With another variation, Munchausen by proxy, caretakers seek these
rewards by making their charges sick. Cyberspace has added a new
twist?one Feldman labels Munchausen by Internet.

To credibly represent themselves as ill?often with obscure and
dramatic maladies?Munchausen sufferers often study medical
literature, and even go so far as to poison themselves to simulate
particular symptoms. "On the Internet," Feldman explains, "it's very
easy to fake. All you have to do is click and you go to another
disease site. You can become an expert on anything in 30 minutes by
visiting Google." By the time Feldman published his
article "Munchausen by Internet" in the Southern Medical Journal in
July of last year, he'd already studied over 20 cases of
cyberMunch. "The incidence is increasing rapidly," he reports.

Feldman runs his own site, and provides a link to another started
this year by Cohen, Victims of Factitious Liars). Cohen says the
people who congregate at her site feel betrayed, but they understand
the fakers are seriously troubled.

The irony in these Munchausen cases is that those pretending to be
ill really are sick, but they rarely go to the right kind of doctor.
When confronted on the Web, they often disappear. In person, they may
show some contrition even though they resist treatment. One of Dr.
Feldman's first Munchausen patients was a profoundly depressed young
woman who was feigning terminal breast cancer. He hospitalized her
and successfully treated her with psychotherapy and drugs. "We tell
them we'll give them treatment for their emotional illness," Feldman
explains, "that they don't need to be ill to see a doctor anymore."

Getting them proper treatment could prevent a lot of harm. Off-line,
by some estimates, people with Munchausen and similar disorders
consume as much as $20 billion annually in unnecessary medical
procedures. Those taken in by online Munchausen sufferers are often
homebound. For them, the Internet is a lifeline to the outside
world. "To discover that their love and nurturing have been
misdirected is like being taunted with their own illness," Feldman
says. "It's devastating."

Diane Hamilton, a librarian in Cape May, New Jersey, and a migraine
sufferer, brought one such case to Dr. Feldman's attention. From 1998
to 1999, a visitor posted to a long-standing migraine support group
on Usenet. He claimed to be a 15-year-old medical student. Not only
did he have migraines, he said, but he also had a seizure disorder
and hemophilia.

At first he won great love and approval from the group. Then his
stories become more and more incredible. His mother was deaf and his
father was alcoholic and abusive. He had to skateboard three miles a
day to get the bus to medical school, and he had a nightclub job as a
drummer. When group members began to question his stories more and
more aggressively, his "mother" signed on to say how their doubt
might plunge the boy into another episode of depression. Finally, as
he was met with increasing skepticism, both the "teen" and
his "mother" disappeared from the site, having victimized a
vulnerable group..

"Some of them had such bad migraines they had to be on Social
Security disability," says Hamilton. "Others had them from head
traumas from accidents. Many had been on drugs for years with no
relief."

After their encounter with the fake poster, the group never
recovered. It split into factions of believers and doubters, its
spirit of trust and caring broken.

An even more bizarre case involved the 1997 duping of a Web-based fan
club for the musical Rent. Many of the members had met while waiting
on line for tickets in New York, and for them the club became a
support network. Catherine Skidmore, a 26-year-old technology
consultant in New York, was one of those taken in a student claiming
to suffer from a fatal liver and nerve disease.

"She showed up once with an IV shunt taped in her arm," Skidmore
recalled. "And she'd go to the cast members and try to get sympathy."
In this way, the woman was able to meet and have dinner with Rent
stars Anthony Rapp and Gwen Stewart. When she returned to Chicago,
the group started getting e-mail from a "friend" of the woman's. The
messages were full of medical jargon and day-by-day accounts of
the "sick" person's condition as she slipped into a coma. "I had lost
a friend who didn't tell me she was dying," says Skidmore. "So I
wrote to her and said I didn't want her to be alone."

Skidmore and others in the group prayed, sent messages, and bought
tickets to fly to Chicago. But whenever they were about to leave, the
friend, who refused to give the name of the hospital, would write
that Rachel had miraculously recovered.

Eventually, these Lazarus-like revivals aroused suspicion. Group
members uncovered the hoax by calling all the hospitals in Chicago.
Rapp's boyfriend, Josh Safran, was one of the fraud detectors. "I
can't believe the lengths she went to. Her e-mails were very
medically proficient. And everybody's lives were so messed up. It was
total drama." Although Safran was skeptical early on, he hesitated to
mention his doubts. "If she turned out to be sick after this, we were
horrible people."

The people who perpetrate these hoaxes don't usually consider the
ways they're harming others. One former Munchausen patient, a 40-year-
old computer technician on the West Coast, used to hurt herself and
pretend she'd been the victim of an attack or accident. "I called
them 'scenarios,'" she explains. "When I'd do something to attract
the paramedics and police, I got an adrenaline rush. I believe I got
addicted to it. At the time, it didn't occur to me I was hurting
anyone but myself."

For those who do not want to be victimized by such folks, however
sick they may or may not be, Dr. Feldman has developed a series of
cues for online detection. Some warning signs are posts that copy
textbook material or other online sites verbatim, and a series of
dramatic declines followed by miraculous recoveries. Be suspicious
when the person makes fantastic claims, he says, resists telephone
contact, or complains that the group is not supportive enough. Be
very suspicious if a "friend" or family member posts for the sick
person?displaying the same writing style and spelling errors.

The treatment for the support-group fakers is psychotherapy. The
treatment for their victims is...another support group. Victims of
Factitious Liars already has 42 members who post regularly about
their own victimization and brainstorm about how to get publicity and
funding to treat Munchausen. Cohen and Grabb are hoping to make a
documentary on the Munchausen phenomenon and have recently received a
substantial contribution from an individual donor.

Paradoxically, one of the issues Cohen and Grabb must confront is
that a member on their own site could be lying. "Look for
inconsistencies in the story over time," Cohen advises her group. "If
you become suspicious, e-mail me and let me know. For the most part,
we have to take what people say at face value. But let's all be aware
that we could get used and get emotionally attached to someone who is
an online liar."
 

ChrichtonsGirl

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I've come across a half dozen or so people like this personally. :( I used to be pretty trusting, but the things I've seen people do to other people on the Internet over the last year especially have made me sadly cynical. I still think I'm vulnerable to a "friend" pulling a scam on me, but I don't swallow stories from relative strangers or just acquaintances anymore.

There was a woman on a forum whose son was in a coma, then he was out, then he was sick, then he was fine, then she broke her leg, then she got headaches, then she had a tumor....all the while accepting donations, well-wishes, cards, gifts and whatever anyone would send. It sent up red flags all over the place for several people, and when someone (not me) called her on it, the whistleblower was called all kinds of awful things until the truth finally came out. The woman was never sick, didn't have a child or husband and I think it ended up that she was a stripper who was pulling this hoax along with her boyfriend.

Sadly, I could tell you several more stories just like that.

Edit - for those of you not wanting to read it, the article basically talks about this new breed of fakers who can't help but come up with diseases and sob stories to get attention and whatever else people give them. The story talks about how easy it is for these people to research different medical conditions, well enough that they can fool people who'd know about this stuff. Anyway, it's a twist on the Munchausen and Muchausen by Proxy syndromes, where people either fake or make illness in themselves or another person to get attention.
 

Jarwa

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I read a few lines of that and automatically thought of Dennilfloss.
Maybe I'm way off. Have to read it later.
 

Azraele

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That's really disturbing and sad.

I used to frequent a chat room and one of the users did something like that. He pretended to be a girl and chatted as her for roughly a year. He then faked his (her) death, and so many people (including myself) were moved and upset. When the truth was finally known, the chat room drifted apart and eventually disentegrated.

But with the bad comes good, so bear in mind that not everyone is nasty like that. One just has to be cautious.
 

Isla

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Yes, it didn't take me too long to realize that the Internet is the perfect place for many to manipulate others.

Still, I have managed to slowly build a circle of friends from around the globe who enrich my life with their conversation and support. There have been ups and downs just as in real life friendships, but we have managed to continue to grow together as we live our separate lives.

To those who have been (and continue to be) real, ((((Thank You!!!!!))))
 

vi edit

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I'm familiar with the Munchausen by proxy disorder. A famous case was a couple years ago with the mother and daughter who resided in Florida. The girl had received hundreds of medical procedures over the course of her 8 or 9 years of life and never seemed to get better. Her mother was always by her side and received tons of support and even made national headlines for being such a great caring parent. It was later found out that the mother was putting cleaning chemicals and poisons in the girls food and was slowing killing the daughter. All of this for some sick, twisted form of self attention.

There is a difference though.

In most Munchausen cases, there is usually someone physically hurt(or at least in the by proxy situations that I've read). But, on the internet, no one is being hurt. I'm sort of torn two ways on the issue.

On the one hand, I say it's just the internet and you should never let your guard down and trust no one. If you get burned, it's your own damn fault.

But, on the other hand, both the person with the munchausen syndrome, as well as that persons targets are suffering from some sort of physical or mental disorder, and so long as no one is getting hurt, there really isn't much a problem with it.

I *wish* I could believe what people say, simply because I myself speak the truth. I don't exaggerate, I don't embelish, and I don't make up lies. I *want* to be treated the same way by people online, but I *know* that I can't.

Guess that the bottom line is to keep your guards up. It's sad. :(
 

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<< I've noticed a lot of people like that on this forum.

Please elaborate on that statement.
>>

I think he meant dennil. I personally don't know you, but apparently others do, so me nor anyone else with any sense is accusing you.
 

MrBond

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Wedesdo, I was thinking the same thing...

It's really sad. I don't understand how stuff like this makes ANYONE feel better about themselves.
 

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<< It's really sad. I don't understand how stuff like this makes ANYONE feel better about themselves. >>

It's the desire for attention and pity. People who've never been cared about or have low self esteem want people to acknowledge their existance.

That's just my guess, but I'm no psychotherapist.
 

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I would be willing to bet that there are a LOT of people who post here that are &quot;infected&quot; with Munchausin by conservatism.

Then there are those who fake fractures haha.
 

PistachioByAzul

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Not just Dennilfloss. I don't want to name names, it's not a big deal and no one particularly cares anyway. But, I've just noticed a lot of subtle (and some not so subtle things) things from some people. The point is that this &quot;cybersickness&quot; is more rampant than most would imagine.

Even if you don't lead a &quot;double life&quot; of lies and exaggerations on the net, you can still become ill from being so removed from the real world.
 

WombatWoman

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I don't want to name names, it's not a big deal and no one particularly cares anyway.

I particularly care. Your statement was &quot;I've noticed a lot of people like that on this forum.&quot;

Name some names.

Perhaps these people, whoever they are, would prefer that, rather than snide innuendo.
 

compuwiz1

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<< Perhaps these people, whoever they are, would prefer that, rather than snide innuendo. >>



WW, well put. If you're gonna say something, you come out and say it. Also realize that trying to unsay something, once said is like trying to unscramble an egg. ;)
 

PistachioByAzul

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What purpose would that serve? Just trying to bring light to how common &quot;cybersickness&quot; is, not to single people out and start a flame war.

I speak as someone who, in my younger and stupider AOL days, did such things, so I recognize similar patterns. I grew out of it but I can see how it can develop into something more (Dennilfloss being the extreme example).
 

WombatWoman

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Making nebulous accusations without having the guts to be specific doesn't do much to &quot;bring light&quot;, EngineNr9.
 

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WW, I think you might have taken EngineNr9's post the wrong way. As I read his comment, I was thinking the same thing in my head. I don't really believe that anyone here is faking an illness or death, or creating any terrible situations solely to gain attention and sympathy (though in my personal opinion, that perfectly describes the former member Dennilfloss).

Rather, vi_edit's post made me think of individual posts and threads that (to me, at least) are nothing more than a grab for attention. It is difficult to deny the fact that there are stories posted here all the time that are either complete BS, or highly embellished; and I believe that quite often the motive behind them is similar to the examples in the original post, but to a much lesser degree. Of the active members, none seem to base their entire existence here on &quot;Munchausen by Internet&quot;, but there are plenty of individual posts and threads that appear to.

I took EngineNr9's post to mean he feels the same as I do (though if that was not his intention, then perhaps he ought to clarify what he meant). Asking him to post specific examples is simply not fair. What if he is wrong? What if he has simply misjudged another member, and now we subject that person to public scrutiny because of his accusations? What good does that do? I regularly read on these forums what I believe to be BS, but I would not point the finger at anyone in particular, simply because it accomplishes nothing. Why risk hurting another person because I don't believe something he posted on an Internet forum?

Edited because much clarifying was needed ;)
 

compuwiz1

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<< Taking out what happened with Dennilfoss on me doesn't accomplish anything. >>



Where did that come from? Sure doesn't look that way to me. No need to say such things.
 

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What if the fake taught a callus to feel. What if somebody could read you so well that they could reach you through a pretext and heal you. Anyway, the thing I notice about this fakery stuff is how afraid people are of being had. (What you call anger, I call fear) What exactly do we have to loose. I would rather be a chump that feels than a cynic who is emotionally sealed away. Are we embarased that we can be fooled.

I think we were betrayed as children by the ones we loved. That's why we betray and are betrayed. And that's why we fear it. It is tremendously dangerous to love. You open yourself to those ancient wounds. But if you are willing to suffer again those same old wounds and see them for what they are, how can you suffer now. The hurt is all in the past. To suffer is to end suffering. Then maybe when you give your love and are fooled there will be no pain.

One night a zen master saw a thief sneak into his hovel and steal his only posession, a rice bowl. The master said, &quot;Too bad I can't give him that moon.&quot;

Those who are so very hard on others are also so very hard on themselves. That's why they say judge not that you be not judged, or he who makes a man a judge destroys him.