Cyberbullying

Beev

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I don't get it. Why are so many parents and politicians so gung-ho about putting an end to cyberbullying? Why do the proposed laws even exist? If a kid doesn't have the common sense to simply turn off the computer and do something else then I have no sympathy. Why aren't these idiot parents, etc. taking care of REAL, PHYSICAL bullying instead?

Am I missing something?
 

Stuxnet

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Dumb thread and a repost.

Kids' primary social interactions these days are via social media.

/thread, go sit in a corner
 

Kwatt

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In today's world of mass media hysteria... accusation = guilt

In the world of drama TV... if there is no drama. Drama must be manufactured.

It is easier to drag someone else down than it is to raise yourself.


Just an opinion....
 

Beev

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Dumb thread and a repost.

Kids' primary social interactions these days are via social media.

/thread, go sit in a corner

Excellent threadcrap. I'll reply anyway:

IDGAF if their "primary interactions" are through social media. Words are just words. Period. People talk shit all the time to all genders and races. For some stupid child to let it affect them to the point they cry or (god forbid) commit suicide is absolutely pathetic.

And I couldn't search, so I wasn't able to verify the repost-ness.
 

sixone

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I don't get it. Why are so many parents and politicians so gung-ho about putting an end to cyberbullying? Why do the proposed laws even exist? If a kid doesn't have the common sense to simply turn off the computer and do something else then I have no sympathy. Why aren't these idiot parents, etc. taking care of REAL, PHYSICAL bullying instead?

Am I missing something?

Why should the victim have to turn off the computer and find something else to do, when they didn't do anything wrong? It's the bullies that should be kicked off, not their victims.
 

sixone

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IDGAF if their "primary interactions" are through social media. Words are just words. Period. People talk shit all the time to all genders and races. For some stupid child to let it affect them to the point they have to abuse someone else is absolutely pathetic.

FFY
 

Beev

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Why should the victim have to turn off the computer and find something else to do, when they didn't do anything wrong? It's the bullies that should be kicked off, not their victims.

Everything has a block, ignore, or delete function. Use them. My suggestion of "do something else" was more of a "it's insanely easy to get away from."
 

slayer202

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Excellent threadcrap. I'll reply anyway:

IDGAF if their "primary interactions" are through social media. Words are just words. Period. People talk shit all the time to all genders and races. For some stupid child to let it affect them to the point they cry or (god forbid) commit suicide is absolutely pathetic.

And I couldn't search, so I wasn't able to verify the repost-ness.

you can't even comprehend some very basic concepts, and you expect kids to be able to deal with bullies in a way that most adults can't do?
 

blackdogdeek

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Everything has a block, ignore, or delete function. Use them. My suggestion of "do something else" was more of a "it's insanely easy to get away from."

insanely easy to get away from?

last night i posted on my facebook that you are a loser. everyone in the school sees it. today you have to go through an entire day of school where everyone thinks you are a loser and says so.

how do you get away from that?
 

sixone

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Everything has a block, ignore, or delete function. Use them. My suggestion of "do something else" was more of a "it's insanely easy to get away from."

It's just as easy for the bullies, and they're the ones behaving badly.
 

ConwayJim

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I don't get it. Why are so many parents and politicians so gung-ho about putting an end to cyberbullying? Why do the proposed laws even exist? If a kid doesn't have the common sense to simply turn off the computer and do something else then I have no sympathy. Why aren't these idiot parents, etc. taking care of REAL, PHYSICAL bullying instead?

Am I missing something?


What about when kids post embarrassing photos, or photo shopped pictures around the internet. This happened to a friend's kid I know, and it really was a terrible thing for them to go through.

I've also heard kids making fake accounts with the victims via facebook and writing really crazy things.

Don't you think these issues need to be addressed?
 

OverVolt

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What about when kids post embarrassing photos, or photo shopped pictures around the internet. This happened to a friend's kid I know, and it really was a terrible thing for them to go through.

I've also heard kids making fake accounts with the victims via facebook and writing really crazy things.

Don't you think these issues need to be addressed?

No absolutely not.
 

Beev

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Don't you think these issues need to be addressed?

Not before than taking care of the bullying that's gone on for decades. It's caused plenty of problems on its own, yet cyberbullying is more important to take care of? I don't think so.
 

Stuxnet

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IDGAF if their "primary interactions" are through social media. Words are just words. Period. People talk shit all the time to all genders and races. For some stupid child to let it affect them to the point they cry or (god forbid) commit suicide is absolutely pathetic.

Your problem, one of them, is that you're trying to apply rational logic in a vacuum rather than applying it to the complex dynamics of adolescent interactions.

Everything has a block, ignore, or delete function. Use them. My suggestion of "do something else" was more of a "it's insanely easy to get away from."

Ever hear of the mob affect? One of the reasons cyberbullying is such a problem is because it's incredibly effective at isolating and alienating an individual. Kids can mobilize their friends with incredible swiftness and effect, and before you know it, there's pressure on the target's own friends to pick sides. For instance, if the popular crowd paints a bullseye on you, your friends will have to choose between becoming targets themselves, or turning their backs to you.

There's a psychology in all of this that appears entirely lost on you. Plenty of studies have been conducted, and not a damn one them concluded the problem is overblown. Why are you such an expert?
 

Capt Caveman

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insanely easy to get away from?

last night i posted on my facebook that you are a loser. everyone in the school sees it. today you have to go through an entire day of school where everyone thinks you are a loser and says so.

how do you get away from that?

The OP is not very bright. I think he has a very narrow view of what cyberbully is.
 

Beev

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I think he has a very narrow view of what cyberbully is.

Not really. I guess I just have the (unfair?) opinion that anyone, child or not, who lets crap like that drive them to suicide is a pathetic person. I do not, and have never thought that cyberbullying is this little 1on1 exchange that no one else sees.
 

Stuxnet

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The OP is not very bright. I think he has a very narrow view of what cyberbully is.

Yep. I was incredibly fortunate to have been in a school where very little bullying, at least that I know of, took place. But I've been close to a number of situations in recent years that have really opened my eyes to what it does to a person. Junior high and high school are arguably the most crucial developmental years in a person's life, and social interactions are a cornerstone to that development, and anyone who's quick to dismiss the effects of being relentlessly bullied through those years is a fucking retard.
 

Stuxnet

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I think we as a society has turned into a bunch of wusses that need the government to intervene.

The government doesn't need to intervene, but I do believe too much is tolerated from kids in schools these days, which itself is traceable back to the fact that teachers have been stripped of any actionable authority. Hell, fights break out in hallways and only but the bravest of teachers dare to get involved for fear of getting fired or retaliated against.

Another (painfully obvious) issue is parents. Parents now, more than ever, just want to be their kids' friends or see parenting as a side job that just interferes with date night and their time at the gym. Few care to watch over what their kids are doing online, let alone take any responsibility for what their kids do in and out of school.